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Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The right to privacy is the biggest joke the supreme court has ever conjured up.
It was awesome in law school watching professors and progressive students try to rationalize the Roe and Casey decisions. The defenses were purely emotional, not grounded in any logic at all.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:26 pm to MrTide33
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1st anniversary of Roe v. Wade and the March for Life was today
Ah so that's what got everyone's panties in a wad.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:31 pm to asurob1
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Ah so that's what got everyone's panties in a wad.
Yeah, I didn't even start them though. I just figured I'd chime in for a bit. I will have to make another one later, I'm sort of tired from earlier
Posted on 1/22/14 at 9:44 pm to MrTide33
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Yeah, I didn't even start them though. I just figured I'd chime in for a bit. I will have to make another one later, I'm sort of tired from earlier
Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:04 pm to LongueCarabine
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retro-active
He and his ilk call them post birth abortions.
Posted on 1/22/14 at 11:05 pm to asurob1
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Is today national coat hanger day?
Are you bored again tonight & stirring things up for fun?
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 1/23/14 at 12:19 am to LSUGrrrl
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Are you bored again tonight & stirring things up for fun?
I of course would never do that.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 7:34 am to asurob1
ASUrob yesterday was the 41st anniversary of the roe v wade decision which legalized abortion in all 50 states. On this day every year hundreds of thousands take to the streets of DC and protest abortion
Here is a photo I took the other day
As you can see the street next to the capital that runs parellel to the mall was fully pack with people. So this is why abortion gets talked about so much today
Here is a photo I took the other day
As you can see the street next to the capital that runs parellel to the mall was fully pack with people. So this is why abortion gets talked about so much today
Posted on 1/23/14 at 7:49 am to asurob1
Yes it was, try to keep up if you can.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 7:55 am to asurob1
Has anyone told you that you're a fricking idiot yet today?
Posted on 1/23/14 at 8:27 am to catholictigerfan
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Here is a photo I took the other day
I bet you had a blast and met some interesting and intense people.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 8:30 am to TN Bhoy
Supreme irony. Abortion is probably the most - if not only - efficient and effective economic Government Program ever. It removes (future) Dems from the voter roles, and saves a ton of tax money that would be needed to cope with the (highly probable) societal dsyfunctionality of people who would - like their parent - have little or no respect for life. Much less responsibility. If you'll kill your baby...that pretty much sums it up how they'd feel about the rest of us. Expendable, for the sake of personal convenience and efficiency. Like I said, Dem voters.
And since it is THEIR CHOICE, the rest of us bear no moral deficit, but that we speak out in Principle and define the moral dynamic of the act of abortion. RE that our taxpayer dollars go to support it...well...we build nuclear weapons too.
There is all manner of 'sinful' (belief or action which is - in effect - contrary to Love) activity out there which ultimately results in the deaths of countless individuals. We could mandate that all tennis shoes (fashion-wise) were the same, and that would save a ton of hurt re the societal dynamic created to get those fancy shoes. But the shoes, or the abortion, or the guns...ain't the problem. It's the perverse VISION of the folk that counts, and we could hold a gun to the head of perverse individuals...and their (restrained) perversion would still disgust moral folk. And bring down Society. There is no shortage of people; there is a shortage of good visionary people.
Even God don't interfere in our free-willed choice. Though *He* does already know the outcome...and ordain it, in respect of the promise of Individual Sovereignty.
'Adam' left the Garden for good reason. We are 'tillin the soil' in pursuit of the knowledge of what is good and evil. As such, ee gotta respect everybody's right to learn the hard way. Don't mean we surrender our right to respond accordingly. Telling the Truth is the proper 'response'.
Live and learn.
And since it is THEIR CHOICE, the rest of us bear no moral deficit, but that we speak out in Principle and define the moral dynamic of the act of abortion. RE that our taxpayer dollars go to support it...well...we build nuclear weapons too.
There is all manner of 'sinful' (belief or action which is - in effect - contrary to Love) activity out there which ultimately results in the deaths of countless individuals. We could mandate that all tennis shoes (fashion-wise) were the same, and that would save a ton of hurt re the societal dynamic created to get those fancy shoes. But the shoes, or the abortion, or the guns...ain't the problem. It's the perverse VISION of the folk that counts, and we could hold a gun to the head of perverse individuals...and their (restrained) perversion would still disgust moral folk. And bring down Society. There is no shortage of people; there is a shortage of good visionary people.
Even God don't interfere in our free-willed choice. Though *He* does already know the outcome...and ordain it, in respect of the promise of Individual Sovereignty.
'Adam' left the Garden for good reason. We are 'tillin the soil' in pursuit of the knowledge of what is good and evil. As such, ee gotta respect everybody's right to learn the hard way. Don't mean we surrender our right to respond accordingly. Telling the Truth is the proper 'response'.
Live and learn.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 8:39 am to RCDfan1950
Is there anyone on this board who could pass a car in a parking lot where a baby was in a car seat alone on a hot day? Nope. Every other priority in your life at that moment would be secondary. The same people who protest outside of abortion clinics think they're doing the same thing. They think they're saving a baby from death. Even the most ardent abortion proponents should at least respect that motivation, IMHO.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:49 am to son of arlo
It was great have been on pro life trips a few times so it's repetitive In ways but still fun.
Actually the trip I went on is more religious focused so those aspects I enjoyed more but I'm ready to sleep in my own bed and not on the floor or the bus with 10 degree weather or snow
Actually the trip I went on is more religious focused so those aspects I enjoyed more but I'm ready to sleep in my own bed and not on the floor or the bus with 10 degree weather or snow
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:50 am to catholictigerfan
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It was great have been on pro life trips a few times so it's repetitive In ways but still fun.
Actually the trip I went on is more religious focused so those aspects I enjoyed more but I'm ready to sleep in my own bed and not on the floor or the bus with 10 degree weather or snow
Glad you enjoyed it. First time I've missed it since 2007.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:05 am to asurob1
Hume says things will change when Science determines how early an embryo feels pain. Right now, they believe an unborn baby feels it at 20 weeks. I'm interested to know if the Pro-Death supporters in here would change their minds if its found that pain is felt at an earlier time?
Posted on 1/23/14 at 10:31 am to Cincinnati Bowtie
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how early an embryo feels pain
There are DEGREES of pain, CB; and there is physical pain...and psychological pain. The conundrum would then progress to what measures as a tolerable degree of pain.
There are degrees of value/worth in each individual who has developed to the point of making choices. Choices based on their values/principals. Narcissistic/selfish individuals are assumed to be evil because their value and choice negates any consideration re the suffering on their brethren (victim). There are degrees of good and evil in all people. Dahmer killed, screwed and ate his brethren, simply for his own convenience/pleasure.
It is delusional and ludicrous to assume that "all people are created equal"...or worse, that all people should be treated as equals when they are OBVIOUSLY not. We are - and should be - judged as valuable on the merits of the VALUES/PRINCIPLES which we serve. That is exactly what Progs/Commies do. If you value your own (selfish) freedom not to share the fruits of your labor with the Collective (regardless of the worth/value/good/evil of individuals in the Collective)...then you are evil. Stalin, Mao, et al acted on the moral impetus that they were serving the greater (Collective) good. Serving (their version) of God/Morality, in effect.
If we can determine that a BLAMELESS (unborn) individual's life can be taken, and that the criteria employed to make that (lawful) CONVENIENCE decision/choice is 'the degree of pain inflicted on the individual'...then what about the degree of pain that that relatively evil individuals' CHOICES inflict on their peers? If we can 'abort' a unborn/blameless individual (in Principle)...they what's the problem with aborting those who WILLFULLY COMMIT selfish and heinous suffering on their peers?
If Obama crashes the economy and health care mechanism...and THOUSANDS DIE...does he get a pass because he meant well? If he truly seeks to "FUNDAMENTALLY change the nation", in ways that are contra-Constitutional...is he a TRAITOR" (as some in other threads have posited)"?
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