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re: Australian Imam: Make No Mistake, Islamic Scripture Commands Beheadings, Massacre People
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:53 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:53 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Our interference in the ME is a secondary issue. We have to remember that we didn't go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq (at least the 2nd gulf war) until after 9/11.
The problem Muslims have with us is our culture and our immorality. We push materialism, greed, lust, and all sorts of vices and then we want to make the rest of the world just like us under the guise of democracy. They hate who we are as a people and they want a war to wipe us out.
The problem Muslims have with us is our culture and our immorality. We push materialism, greed, lust, and all sorts of vices and then we want to make the rest of the world just like us under the guise of democracy. They hate who we are as a people and they want a war to wipe us out.
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:54 pm to PsychTiger
Where Liberals err is that the idea is there is Perfect Peace in Islam, i.e. as a result because it massacred out any alternatives.
This is where the idea Islam is a religion of peace comes from. The idea that Islam produces perfect peace and it does...by and through the sword.
This is where the idea Islam is a religion of peace comes from. The idea that Islam produces perfect peace and it does...by and through the sword.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:54 pm to WaWaWeeWa
We agree on some things, but not the stuff that actually matters. These handy graphics you keep posting tell such a tiny and Insignificant part of the story, but you aren't able to see that because the region and its people are completely foreign to you. Your understanding of words like "Sharia" and "Martyr" are wildly different than theirs for example, but really, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:56 pm to FooManChoo
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Our interference in the ME is a secondary issue. We have to remember that we didn't go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq (at least the 2nd gulf war) until after 9/11.
That's one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on this topic. Congrats.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:57 pm to MrCarton
quote:You're just being fooled by the taquitos
Your understanding of words like "Sharia" and "Martyr" are wildly different than theirs for example, but really, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Delicious taquitos
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:59 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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Maybe but these fricks are here now.
So what? Why do people keep saying this?
Its funny how 3 days ago we had hundreds of up votes for a proposal to ban people that travel to extremist hotbeds, but today those same places are irrelevant because,"they already live here"
Which logic will prevail?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:00 pm to Iosh
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You're just being fooled by the taquitos
Delicious taquitos
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:12 pm to skrayper
The fictional series "Homeland" deals with fighting the war against radical Islam. In this short clip the CIA operative "Quinn" has just spent 2 years in Syria, he lays out the problem for his superiors. Unfortunately his response is 100% based on today's reality.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:16 pm to MrCarton
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We agree on some things, but not the stuff that actually matters. These handy graphics you keep posting tell such a tiny and Insignificant part of the story, but you aren't able to see that because the region and its people are completely foreign to you. Your understanding of words like "Sharia" and "Martyr" are wildly different than theirs for example, but really, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
If you aren't going to legitimize my "handy graphics" from a respected independent polling group then how can you expect anyone to believe you when you say 95% of Muslims are Friday Muslims with no evidence to support that claim?
I get it, you have been to the middle east, you know many Muslim people but how does that qualify you to speak for 95% of the Muslim population and disregard a unbiased poll of thousands of Muslims around the world?
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:17 pm to MrCarton
quote:It's the opposite of ignorant as I understand that there's more to the story than us dropping bombs in countries or support Israel. Muslims throughout the world are at odds with western values and they don't want us pushing our values on them. Remember, it's about the caliphate in Islam, where the religion of Islam dominates the world both spiritually and physically through territorial rule. Sharia law is imposed because it comes from the religion. They don't like our western laws and ideal.
That's one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on this topic. Congrats.
They don't like our immoral views of tolerance towards homosexuals, acceptance (and promotion) of abortion, and the abundance of possessions that rule our lives. Most ME countries are poor and the people have next to nothing. They see us overflowing with riches and hate us for our greed. You know why they don't typically assimilate well into western societies? It's because they don't want to live like the westerners. They want to set up their own laws and deal with each other according to their religion. They want to multiply and take over while others want to take over by force and have us submit through fear.
Sure, many who have been directly impacted by our wars use that as an additional excuse to hate us, but that isn't universal. Not all terrorists are coming from Iraq and Afghanistan. They hate us for many reasons, but primarily because what we stand for is contrary to what they stand for, which is determined by their religion. It's a culture war as well as a religious war.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:18 pm to skrayper
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Okay, I have to ask. Why specifically Ben Afleck?
Because he was an outspoken Islamic supporter who when confronted on Bill Mahers show, went on about how Islam is a religion of peace and characterizing it otherwise was in his words "gross."
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You're a Christian Bale guy and pissed, aren't you?
Bale>>>Afleck
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:18 pm to EA6B
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The fictional series "Homeland" ... 100% based on today's reality.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:19 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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If you aren't going to legitimize my "handy graphics" from a respected independent polling group then how can you expect anyone to believe you when you say 95% of Muslims are Friday Muslims with no evidence to support that claim?
I didn't challenge the legitimacy of the polls in my response. Go back and read it again. What you will find it that I challenged your analysis of what they mean. I did that on the basis that you don't really understand the region, people, language, or culture. Your looking at something you don't understand.
But I'd like a link to the polling method while we are on it
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:22 pm to EA6B
quote:That was pretty good. That's exactly why they do what they do. They believe they are doing Allah's will according to their scriptures. They want to spread Islam throughout the entire world and convert or kill all who have not already submitted.
The fictional series "Homeland" deals with fighting the war against radical Islam. In this short clip the CIA operative "Quinn" has just spent 2 years in Syria, he lays out the problem for his superiors. Unfortunately his response is 100% based on today's reality.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:23 pm to MrCarton
So what does the poll mean?
I will link the polling method when you link any evidence to support the fact that 95% of Muslims (I assume you mean worldwide, unless you would like to clarify in the US) are "Friday Muslims"
I will link the polling method when you link any evidence to support the fact that 95% of Muslims (I assume you mean worldwide, unless you would like to clarify in the US) are "Friday Muslims"
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:24 pm to FooManChoo
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It's the opposite of ignorant
It's just plain ole ignorance. You aren't even aware of what your own government does in the region, or the 100 years of interventions and war fought there. Pathetic.
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Sure, many who have been directly impacted by our wars use that as an additional excuse to hate us, but that isn't universal. Not all terrorists are coming from Iraq and Afghanistan. They hate us for many reasons, but primarily because what we stand for is contrary to what they stand for, which is determined by their religion. It's a culture war as well as a religious war.
Almost none do. WHICH IS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT, if you had even the tiniest bit of knowledge you might understand that. Holy shite man.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:26 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I will link the polling method when you link any evidence to support the fact that 95% of Muslims (I assume you mean worldwide, unless you would like to clarify in the US) are "Friday Muslims"
Pathetic.
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So what does the poll mean?
It means absolutely nothing. It's an incomplete data point. You can make it mean whatever you want though champ ;)
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:28 pm to MrCarton
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It's just plain ole ignorance. You aren't even aware of what your own government does in the region, or the 100 years of interventions and war fought there. Pathetic.
This is only one part.
The teachings of their "religion" promotes violence against non believers. That is an indisputable fact whether you like it or not.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:30 pm to MrCarton
quote:Of course I'm aware. I've read Osama Bin Laden's letter from 2002 that blamed all of our intervention for his hatred towards us. I know that Israel is the enemy to all Muslims over there for occupying their holy land and that we have been protecting them and funding them, which makes us just as bad as they are. However, that is secondary to the fact that we are unholy in our conduct, according to their scriptures. In Biblical terms, we have become the great harlot Babylon, which seeks to spread evil influence over the righteous. They hate everything we are. It isn't just some geopolitical hatred due to having some boots on the ground over there.
It's just plain ole ignorance. You aren't even aware of what your own government does in the region, or the 100 years of interventions and war fought there. Pathetic
quote:Others here have cited our interference in Iraq and Afghanistan as the reason why the terrorists today are trying to kill us. I was arguing against that notion and instead saying that the hatred of us goes back beyond our recent military actions in those countries. They hate our culture.
Almost none do. WHICH IS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT, if you had even the tiniest bit of knowledge you might understand that. Holy shite man.
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:31 pm to MrCarton
Hahaha this is bordering on comical
So you just have the authority to boldly state 95% of Muslims are Friday Muslims? And that statement alone is justification with no other supporting evidence?
But an international poll by a well respected research center is "an incomplete data point" and you can't even tell me why.
Wait. Let me guess... I just don't understand the people, the religion, etc
So you just have the authority to boldly state 95% of Muslims are Friday Muslims? And that statement alone is justification with no other supporting evidence?
But an international poll by a well respected research center is "an incomplete data point" and you can't even tell me why.
Wait. Let me guess... I just don't understand the people, the religion, etc
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