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August 2nd, 1776

Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Narrowboat
Member since Jun 2022
45 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:50 pm
August 2, 1776, is one of the most important but least celebrated days in American history when 56 members of the Second Continental Congress started signing the Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 4:53 pm to
Uh…you’re a month off there, buddy.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:00 pm to
No he’s correct, that’s the date the signatures started. They did not complete the signing on July 4.
Posted by Narrowboat
Member since Jun 2022
45 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Uh…you’re a month off there, buddy


Am I?

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Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:08 pm to
Yes, you are. I’m one of the historians who are in the camp that it was signed on July 4, 1776. Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams all wrote that it was signed on July 4. The date, for whatever reason, did not come into dispute for another 20 years. It definitely is plausible that all 56 signers didn't finish signing the document until August 2, 1776, but I doubt Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams would all be mistaken about the date. I think legal historian William Fritz argues that 34 of the 56 signatures were applied to the document on July 4. I tend to agree with him, given the evidence.
This post was edited on 7/3/22 at 5:16 pm
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
1038 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:15 pm to
Bama fan. Makes sense.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:18 pm to
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Bama fan. Makes sense.


So you would dispute the claims of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams? I'm pretty sure none of them were Bama fans. The confusion in all of this lies with New York's abstention from the vote on July 2. It wasn't until July 19 that their legislature gave their delegates in Philadelphia permission to vote for independence.
Posted by Narrowboat
Member since Jun 2022
45 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:25 pm to
Sure those wet not signatures of appointment?

July 4, 1776
Congress approves the Declaration of Independence and orders it printed. Philadelphia printer John Dunlap prints about 200 copies. Fewer than 30 survive today.

July 19, 1776
Congress ordered the Declaration engrossed for signatures. Title is changed from “A Declaration by the Representatives of the United States of America in General Congress Assembled” to “The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America.”

August 2, 1776
Declaration signed by (most likely) 50 of the 56 signers. Five more signed later in 1776. Thomas McKean, the 56th signer, signed sometime after January 1777. There is only one handwritten, signed Declaration of Independence. It is on display in the National Archives in Washington D.C.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6904 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:25 pm to
I shared this with my kids yesterday. There’s plenty of dates in there, including August 2, 1776.

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After voting on independence on July 2, the Continental Congress then needed to draft a document explaining the move to the public. It had been proposed in draft form by the Committee of Five (John Adams, Roger Sherman, Robert Livingston, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson) and it took two days for the Congress to agree on the edits

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Once the Congress approved the actual Declaration of Independence document on July 4, it ordered that it be sent to a printer named John Dunlap. About 200 copies of the “Dunlap Broadside” version of the document were printed, with John Hancock’s name printed at the bottom. Today, 26 copies remain. That is why the Declaration has the words, “IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776,” at its top, because that is the day the approved version was signed in Philadelphia.

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On July 8, 1776, Colonel John Nixon of Philadelphia read a printed Declaration of Independence to the public for the first time on what is now called Independence Square. (Most of the members of the Continental Congress signed a version of the Declaration on August 2, 1776, in Philadelphia. The names of the signers were released publicly in early 1777.)

Posted by Narrowboat
Member since Jun 2022
45 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:27 pm to
Not arguing… just friendly discussion
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 5:58 pm to
OP, I say July 4.

Now you will have unanimous agreement for August 2.

You’re welcome.
Posted by Narrowboat
Member since Jun 2022
45 posts
Posted on 7/3/22 at 8:17 pm to
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OP, I say July 4.


I happy to celebrate both!
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