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re: Aborting Down syndrome babies

Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:14 pm to
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It requires love and attention


So does a family dog or cat.


What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:17 pm to
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I know the father of a beautiful 7 year old girl who’d stomp a mud hole in your arse and walk it dry if you said this about his Downs daughter.


Does this father have the necessary assets to assure the child will have proper caretakers as a adult long after he is passed away, due to the additional financial burden of raising a child with Downs most do not. To add to the complications of having Downs, 75% of adults with Downs over age 60 develop Alzheimer's. Most adults with Downs will end up on Medicaid and other taxpayer funded programs.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:22 pm to
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My ex and her husband have a son with downs, he's an awesome kid. It requires love and attention, which is why you can't understand


I have a severely autistic brother. I know way more than you about this subject. None of you guys understand it. Its been incredibly hard on my family. He's been a prisoner in his own body for his entire life. If my mom had had the option or had known that was going to happen before hand she could have spared him and our entire family.

Once you get past all of your emotional outrage you can start seeing it more clearly. Again, none of you understand. You just sit there from the sidelines and tell people to take care of a child that you'll never have to be responsible for. What you're defending is worse.

Those people you know it Down syndrome and their families already had it happen. Using them as an example is not very good one considering they can't do anything to change that now. But most of them if they had the opportunity wouldn't have done this to themselves and their child
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:23 pm to
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have a severely autistic brother. I know way more than you about this subject


Autism =\= downs doofus

I'll put money you're on the spectrum yourself
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26037 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:24 pm to
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These two things are true:

a. Medical testing can detect a wide range of mental/physical defects in the 1st trimester.

b. Special needs kids are a huge financial burden on taxpayers.

People can come to their own conclusions about policy after accepting these 2 truths.



What “huge financial burden” does Downs precipitate?

Honest question. I know some from a distance, and recognize that it requires more care and dedication from the family. I am not aware of it requiring significant state support, though.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:24 pm to
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This is what the supporters of aborting disabled babies are too stupid to see. If society can decide it wants to eradicate What it declares as “undesirables”, it can make the same decision about any group it wants.

Like I said, they’re blind fools just stupid enough to have fooled themselves into think they’re smart.


No you're just a self-righteous moron who knows nothing about the subject and have never had to live with it. There is such a thing as Nuance. Not everything is completely black and white. You stop at disabled people. Do you have any lick of sense you would understand that
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73059 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Does this father have the necessary assets to assure the child will have proper caretakers as a adult long after he is passed away, due to the additional financial burden of raising a child with Downs most do not. To add to the complications of having Downs, 75% of adults with Downs over age 60 develop Alzheimer's. Most adults with Downs will end up on Medicaid and other taxpayer funded programs.


He has the assets to make sure his daughter is cared for properly for the rest of her life.

As for your argument, I guess in addition to killing all Downs kids, you suport going ahead and putting down anyone who’s given a Alzheimer’s diagnosis, right? Or better yet, by your logic, it’s best to not wait until they become a burden. Just kill anyone who comes from a group that has high instances of Alzheimer’s. But why stop there? Look at the burden places on society by people with diseases like cancer, diabetes, and a host of other diseases both acquired and genetic. Hell, let’s go ahead and get started building the camps, sealing up the gas chambers, and get those ovens roaring.
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 2:27 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:26 pm to
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No you're just a self-righteous moron who knows nothing about the subject and have never had to live with it. There is such a thing as Nuance. Not everything is completely black and white. You stop at disabled people. Do you have any lick of sense you would understand that



What about poor people? I'm guessing we should abort the hell out of the hood
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:26 pm to
Are you sure about the "taking care of yourself " part ?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Autism =\= downs doofus


That's a minor part of the argument. The argument is about sparing people and their families.

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I'll put money you're on the spectrum yourself


So you would put money on the fact that you think that I'm autistic and are telling me to make fun of me about it but you are the caring one? You're a fricking joke dude. Not only do you not know anything about this subject matter but you're just an ignorant a-hole.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73059 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:27 pm to
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No you're just a self-righteous moron who knows nothing about the subject and have never had to live with it.


Hey dipshit, I HAVE A DOWNS CHILD IN MY FAMILY YOU STIPID PEICE OF DOGSHIT.

Learn to read you ignorant peice of shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:29 pm to
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That's a minor part of the argument.


No, that was a large part of your "credibility" on the subject.

You have none

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but you're just an ignorant a-hole.


You poor thing
This post was edited on 3/18/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:29 pm to
You have serious anger issues.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:29 pm to
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What about poor people? I'm guessing we should abort the hell out of the hood


First off there is no "we." You ignorant morons keep talking about it like there's some Central Overlord that is killing retarded babies. It's an individual family decision. So we aren't going to go around and start killing poor people because that doesn't make any fricking sense.

I don't even know why you're trying so hard in this because none of what you're saying adds up to Jack shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:31 pm to
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don't even know why you're trying so hard in this because none of what you're saying adds up to Jack shite.


In general sociopaths such as yourself have a hard time understanding
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:31 pm to
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No, that was a large part of your "credibility" on the subject.

You have none


And you have less. Because you haven't even experienced having a mentally disabled person in your family at all. You're such a fricking moron do you don't even realize that if you take my credibility away then you have even less.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:33 pm to
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In general sociopaths such as yourself have a hard time understanding


So then why are you wasting your efforts? If you don't think I would understand it would be pointless to tell me or you're just disingenuous and are just trying to be insulting. Either way you're an idiot who has made no good points
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:33 pm to
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And you have less.


yeah ...make up something to make yourself feel better.

Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Hey dipshit


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YOU STIPID PEICE OF DOGSHIT.


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ignorant peice of shite.


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And you’re just stupid enough


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You’re a blind fool.


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too stupid to realize just how ignorant and foolish you are










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I’m qutie rational and very reasonable.


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73059 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 2:35 pm to
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You have serious anger issues.



Sorry i get angry when a stupid piece of dogshit says a family member I love who brings pure joy and love to everyone she meets would have been better to have never been born.
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