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re: A great irony of the left

Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:01 pm to
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Wrong again. The left made gender relevant by claiming discrimination and trying to ruin lives for every mentally disturbed person that feels “offended”. I don’t give a shite what people do as long as they don’t infringe upon my or my family’s rights. The left is trying to tell me how I must address someone based on how they feel.


So you didn’t support the passage of the North Carolina bathroom legislation from Republicans?

The left didn’t claim discrimination until the bill was passed. Things were fine. Your side was offended by using bathrooms with transgender folks.

You keep trying to spin this but you can’t
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:02 pm to
you are truly ignorant.

Like most on your side, you are simply too stupid to realize it.

Give me one actual provable fact about climate science.

Not based on projections, or estimates. Not a series of models using multiple variables....

Remember the "scientific method".....

Is that still taught in school?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:03 pm to
Give me one ounce of proof that allowing transgenders into different bathrooms endangers society. Using the scientific method.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 7:04 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

I understand the point you’re trying to make but I just want to be sure you aren’t pretending the right is doing the exact same thing.


Nothing in my post says anything about the Right. I’m not defending current conservative politics. If you want to start a thread about ironic political ideas of the Right no one is stopping you, and in fact I will probably agree with you. The Republican Party is currently a mess.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

The left didn’t claim discrimination until the bill was passed. Things were fine. Your side was offended by using bathrooms with transgender folks.


you can’t be serious right?

You should look up Jordan Peterson’s story or James Damore and google. I’m not spinning anything. You are trying to reduce the argument to bathrooms in North Carolina.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:11 pm to
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cahoots


What is with your obsession with bathrooms? It’s a little strange
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:13 pm to
I just think it’s crazy to pass legislation dealing with bathrooms. I never gave bathrooms a second thought until Republicans passed a bathroom bill. I could t believe that was a thing
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 7:17 pm
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:16 pm to
You bring up the scientific method but ask for a provable fact???

Good. Grief.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:16 pm to
I’m not disagreeing with you. I never said anything about passing legislation.

But by your standard there should be no cultural norms based on sex. So I can change in the women’s locker room at the gym with your wife right?
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 7:18 pm
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:17 pm to
Cheers to that. Despite the hostility (and probably opposing political views) I think you and I are on the same page.

The Dems are a mess too.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:22 pm to
Everything is a mess. There’s hypocrisy on both sides. I’ll be the first to admit that. I just think (and I may be biased) that there is malicious hostility on the side of the left when they are trying to destroy lives, restrict free speech, and get people fired for thinking differently. That’s what I have a problem with.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:27 pm to
I mean, as long as you don’t have other intentions. It’s not like the law allows you to hover over women to your heart’s desire.

I’ve stayed in hostels overseas that were coed. Teenage and twenty somethings sharing bathroom and shower facilties, and dorm rooms.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

I mean, as long as you don’t have other intentions. It’s not like the law allows you to hover over women to your heart’s desire.


How will you judge my intentions? And what if I have bad intentions? Is that a crime?
Posted by slaughlin
North Dad Gum Louisiana
Member since Apr 2008
3098 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:35 pm to
Dear God you people on the left are loons.

Male.
Female.
Period.

See how simple that is?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:38 pm to
I meant as long as you don’t do anything weird. I can’t judge your intent until you’ve committed an offense. There are quite a few legal protections afforded to people in a locker room. If all you do is go in and change, fine

Like I said, I’ve stayed in coed places. Some people changed in the stalls. Some didn’t care.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

I meant as long as you don’t do anything weird.


Got it, so if you think something is “weird” it’s not ok.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:44 pm to
Man, im speaking in millennial slang. As long as you don’t do anything illegal.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:50 pm to
I’m a millennial. There is no such thing as millennial slang. You just backed yourself into a corner and realized it.

You are fine with behaviors you don’t think are “weird”, but if we drilled down on the subject we could find something you are uncomfortable with that the law wouldn’t protect you from. That’s why society has norms to reduce the incidence of awkward situations based on the overwhelming majority of the population.

What if I think that having a “woman” with a dick and balls go into the bathroom alone with my 12 year old daughter is “weird”?
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 7:56 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

I’m a millennial. There is no such thing as millennial slang. You just backed yourself into a corner and realized it.


I’ve made my position pretty clear. I don’t care if you go into a bathroom marked for women. I really don’t. As long as you don’t do anything that crosses legal lines, but that is rather obvious. Believe it or not, that doesn’t give you a license to see how many naked women you can eye in an hour. Plenty of laws exist to protect reasonable expectation of privacy even in a locker room setting.

quote:

What if I think that having a “woman” with a dick and balls go into the bathroom alone with my 12 year old daughter is “weird”?


I understand your concern about your daughter going into a bathroom, but do you
really think explicit sex-based bathroom laws are going to protect your daughter? Or what does the risk even look like?

Care to share any facts on transgender lawbreakers? I could maybe be convinced of some legislation if there were an epidemic of transgressions, but I don’t think we should legislate just because you think it’s “weird”

Is that a good rationale for laws now?
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:20 pm to
I get why you are trying to steer the conversation to bathroom laws. I’m not for laws. That’s not what this thread was about.

A better example of what this thread is about would be James Damore’s memo. A memo filled with scientific citations. A memo that he got fired for.
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