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10 Thoughts on the President and the 'S---hole Countries'

Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:39 am
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:39 am

Dennis Prager slinging truth.

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2. As a rule, a president of the United States should not label countries, let alone continents, "s---holes." I don't know what word the president actually used, but had he used the word "dysfunctional" instead of "s---hole," that actually might have been a service to the people of many of these countries. I have been to 20 African countries. Corruption is Africa's greatest single problem. That's why those who truly care about Africans, many of whom are terrific people, need to honestly describe the moral state of many or most African countries. What benefit is it to honest, hardworking Africans or Latin Americans or others to deny the endemic corruption of these societies?

As Guatemalan columnist Claudia Nunez wrote on Trump in the Guatemalan newspaper Siglio 21: "The epithets he uses to describe certain groups are unfortunate and exemplify the decadence of the current political scene. But he has also said things that are true, for example, that it is we citizens of migration countries who have accommodated ourselves to the need to export people, as we have calmly allowed excessive levels of corruption to grow for decades."


3. Though many wonderful immigrants come from the world's worst places, there is some connection between the moral state of an immigrant's country and the immigrant's contribution to America. According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies, 73 percent of households headed by Central American and Mexican immigrants use one or more welfare programs, as do 51 percent of Caribbean immigrants and 48 percent of African immigrants. Contrast that with 32 percent of East Asians and 26 percent of Europeans.

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Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:43 am to
All I got from those 3 is Trump says mean words, but he ain't wrong.
Posted by rpr4695
Member since May 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 1:49 am to
I'd agree to open borders if and only if naturalized immigrants and their next 2 generations are disqualified from any federal or state benefits including tax credits, tax deductions, welfare, medicare, and medicaid.
Posted by palm springs tiger
Member since Aug 2004
687 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 2:09 am to
And voting.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:18 am to
He ain’t wrong
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:20 am to
From someone that knows, 100% of the African countries I've been to are shitholes.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:24 am to
Being honest,a lot of those places are shite holes.

Why else would their citizens want to leave.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98491 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:50 am to
Dennis...

What's the address of you vacation homes in these paradise?

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:57 am to
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Dennis...

What's the address of you vacation homes in these paradise?
He's not saying the places aren't shitholes. He's saying it would have been more productive to say "dysfunctional" than "shithole".
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98491 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:32 am to
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He's saying it would have been more productive to say "dysfunctional" than "shithole".


He could have called them Shaquille O'Neal and the Dems would be just as opposed to whatever he proposed (mainly, Wall). The fact is that this was probably what most such meetings are like, but unlike in the past, a sandy vaged Democrat came and squealed about it.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:37 am to
quote:

He could have called them Shaquille O'Neal and the Dems would be just as opposed to whatever he proposed (mainly, Wall). The fact is that this was probably what most such meetings are like, but unlike in the past, a sandy vaged Democrat came and squealed about it.
Good point
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27191 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:40 am to
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3. Though many wonderful immigrants come from the world's worst places, there is some connection between the moral state of an immigrant's country and the immigrant's contribution to America. According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies, 73 percent of households headed by Central American and Mexican immigrants use one or more welfare programs, as do 51 percent of Caribbean immigrants and 48 percent of African immigrants. Contrast that with 32 percent of East Asians and 26 percent of Europeans.


Any percentage is too much in this regard. If you can't hack it here without using my tax dollars to subsidize your existence, you shouldn't be able to come here. We need to take a close look at New Zealand's immigration policies.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 11:43 am
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61216 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:44 am to
True, but his point is nevertheless an eye-opener. I had never seen this statistic before. Obviously the media aren't interested i reporting this information.

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According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies, 73 percent of households headed by Central American and Mexican immigrants use one or more welfare programs, as do 51 percent of Caribbean immigrants and 48 percent of African immigrants. Contrast that with 32 percent of East Asians and 26 percent of Europeans.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27191 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:53 am to
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True, but his point is nevertheless an eye-opener. I had never seen this statistic before. Obviously the media aren't interested i reporting this information.


Yes it is. And no-they are not.

The media would never report anything that would cause people to actually think with their brains and wallet about our immigration policies, rather than tugging at the heart strings of those whose decision-making ability is operated solely by emotions. Every time that immigration is brought up, the media might as well play Sarah McLachlan's "Arms of an Angel."

This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 11:54 am
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