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re: Paging Daylower---duck hunting question
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:59 am to Bleeding purple
Posted on 1/22/13 at 9:59 am to Bleeding purple
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so if I start lableling my frozen duck breast as pheasent breast or chucker, I'm good right?
DNA testing
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Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:06 am to Bleeding purple
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Bleeding purple
Everybody knows the federal law, the way its written is retarded, but for the sake of argument lets make a kind of hypothetical scenario.
BP goes out and shoots ducks for 6 days, limits each day, cleans the ducks, puts them in the freezer.
Somewhere along the way BP turns outlaw and theres enough evidence of outlawing deer or something stacked up against him for a search warrant. GW searched BP's house/freezer and finds all the ducks along with say a couple illegal deer.
BP ends up being ticketed/jailed for over possession limit ducks, and the for the illegal deer. Makes sense(kind of)?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:10 am to brass2mouth
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Somewhere along the way BP turns outlaw and theres enough evidence of outlawing deer or something stacked up against him for a search warrant. GW searched BP's house/freezer and finds all the ducks along with say a couple illegal deer.
How often does this happen?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:14 am to brass2mouth
That would suck for BP. 
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:35 am to wickowick
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This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:42 am to brass2mouth
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the federal law, the way its written is retarded
agree
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BP goes out and shoots ducks for 6 days, limits each day
the way I shoot we are really getting hypothetical here
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BP ends up being ticketed/jailed for over possession limit ducks
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Makes sense(kind of)?
No because none of the ducks were taken illegally. I would have had no more of a negative eefect on the duck population than a guy who shot a limit every day and ate all of them every day.
Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the GW that I took more than I should have on any given day?
That is not to say I don't understand the law as written, I just dont understand why it is written that way. The intent of the law should be to conserve a resource while promoting the sport and this clearly does not hit that mark.
What if I dontated the duck to a friend who is down and out? He does not hunt, he can not buy a license, he and his family are broke and hungry. According to the law he is above the possession limit. Stupid!
Also how does this apply to mounts? If I have a two day possession of ducks in the freezer and 6 mounts on the wall wouldn't I be over the possession limit per the letter of the law?
What about ducks that are sitting in pot of gumbo on the stove? Do they count toward the possession limit?
ETA: I did not think GW needed a warrant.
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:43 am to Bleeding purple
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the way I shoot we are really getting hypothetical here
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:48 am to brass2mouth
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with another one on the way in the next week or so.
Note to self: Clean out freezer when I get home
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:49 am to Langston
No shite I feel a big arse gumbo coming on.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:50 am to Bleeding purple
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Shouldn't the burden of proof be on the GW that I took more than I should have on any given day?
No, because you would be hypothetically charged with over the possession limit, not daily.
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That is not to say I don't understand the law as written, I just dont understand why it is written that way. The intent of the law should be to conserve a resource while promoting the sport and this clearly does not hit that mark.
Neither do I man, but what else is new with lawmakers, esp the Feds.
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What if I dontated the duck to a friend who is down and out? He does not hunt, he can not buy a license, he and his family are broke and hungry. According to the law he is above the possession limit.
Yeah, technically, and if they arent tagged, then there's a tagging violation as well.
ALL of this is extremely hypothetical though, and unless you are the scum of the earth, there is 0 chance of this happening to you.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:55 am to brass2mouth
I hunt ethically enough and feel I am far enough removed from teh scum of the earth that I hunt with GW frequently and would be glad to hunt with you. Thanks for entertaining my questions. 
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:59 am to Bleeding purple
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Bleeding purple
Anytime, just might have to bump the thread for me every now and then, I don't live on here like some people.
At some point, I'm gonna get in on one of your infamous pig hunts.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:00 am to Bleeding purple
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Also how does this apply to mounts?
It doesnt! If you are that concerned with the possesion limit, apply for a pluckers license. I know of some camps that have done this. Most of them come in for a week at a time. 5-6 days of limits will get your possession limits out of wack.
That covers the folks at camp BUT you still have to transport the cleaned ducks from camp to home and also store them at the house once there. So, I guess, technically, you are F'ed either way. Would that be a correct statement Daylower?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:03 am to Vlad
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That covers the folks at camp BUT you still have to transport the cleaned ducks from camp to home and also store them at the house once there. So, I guess, technically, you are F'ed either way. Would that be a correct statement Daylower?
Yeah, there were some people down in Venice that got in trouble for that last year.
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:09 am to brass2mouth
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Yeah, there were some people down in Venice that got in trouble for that last year.
So, to be on the up and up, you should only transport the daily possession limit, even if it is legally tagged from a licensed plucker?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:19 am to Vlad
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So, to be on the up and up, you should only transport the daily possession limit, even if it is legally tagged from a licensed plucker?
I'm not familiar with this "license plucker" first time I've heard of that honestly.
What I was talking about involved groups of people going to guide hunts for a week or more and bringing all the ducks back in one truck.
Its all going to change next year with the 3 day poss. limit they are talking about.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:22 am to brass2mouth
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At some point, I'm gonna get in on one of your infamous pig hunts.
any time my man any time.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:49 am to brass2mouth
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"license plucker"
I am not sure what the legal name is but its a waterfowl processing permit or license. They basically have to keep a card or form with the birds. If the bird is plucked or breasted, it list who killed the birds, license #, date taken, species, ect...
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