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re: LDWF Enforcement specing out new night vision (thermal) drone

Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:42 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:42 am to
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I don't think the difference between a regular scope and a thermal scope is $25k. You can do the math for me.

Just checked. You can get the setup I was talking about with a thermal camera for $6k
lets play that game.

so you can get a nice scope for $300 and a nice thermal for 6k like you said a 2000% difference

so your 500$ drone im going to bump up to the 1k drone like a mavic or phantom 4 (because the 3 sucks and we are just making up talking point to fit our own narrative anyway) compared to this 25k drone - 2500% difference..... not that different now
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:45 am to
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Landowners own the airspace from their minerals rights up to outer space. However, the FAA has an "eminent domain" of sorts to operate inside your airspace - without your permission. The FAA White Paper on airspace is pretty straightforward. The Fed is in control of ALL airspace. Locals have no control over the air. However, they do have control over the land and can pass limitations on where you can land and take off.

so your answer for shooting them down being legal is wrong.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:34 pm to
How many percentages do you have in your checking account? You pay with dollars, not percentages.

I never said a nice thermal scope was $6k. I meant that you can get a drone that does thermal for $6k.

I have a buddy that flies drones professionally. His can do things a little better than a cheap one (payload, fly time, speed, distance, etc), but it's not worth the price increase IMHO. I can't see the reliability being that much different where it requires such a monumental difference in price. Plus, you don't need any training to fly the cheap ones.


I'd like to see an actual side-by-side flying and recording comparison of each
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:23 pm to
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so your answer for shooting them down being legal is wrong.

No (fixed it).
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2600 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:32 pm to
They gonna get a bunch of ole baws lookin like this.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 3:08 pm to
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How many percentages do you have in your checking account? You pay with dollars, not percentages
I really was giving you a hard time but when you are talking about using things commerically you do compare based on relative cost not just the dollar value.
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I have a buddy that flies drones professionally.
I have a few and do it myself.
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His can do things a little better than a cheap one (payload, fly time, speed, distance, etc), but it's not worth the price increase IMHO.
does he run a true Enterprise level drone or just the higher end personal ones like the inspire?

Because you mainly are paying for the software ability to control the drones. The eBee is an entry level fixed wing that will run you 25k. So the money is in the automation and the camera. Things you don't get with basic DJI drones.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5743 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 3:26 pm to
Am I on the OB or did I stumble onto the OT? You boys are lighting this fella up
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 3:45 pm to
He had just gotten into the professional stuff when I last hung out with him, and had a big one (maybe 4 or 5ft across). He now does it in an engineering capacity, along with his normal civil work.

I couldn't see the difference in video quality when I looked at his vs a cheap one
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58310 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 4:03 pm to
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I couldn't see the difference in video quality when I looked at his vs a cheap one


i understand this. but a phone can take just as good of picture than a nice HDR camera. It isnt just about the pictures you are looking at. high end drones there are a multitude of high precision sensors on it like gps(not your phone gps, but gps that gets you within an inch) that cost way more than your HD camera. that along with the automated control.

I have been trying to research a DIY fixed wing where i can do aerials of our lease. I can do it with my mavic but it would take like 50 flights to get even a piece of the property. I have found a few white papers of grad students trying to do it but nothing that i can get right now. It isnt difficult to built one, with long range controls but having non proprietary software to fly the patterns and take your shots at the right intervals hast be done yet, in a DIY capacity.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 11/9/18 at 5:17 pm to
MJ2 did one for a buddy a while back. IIRC, it was only like $200, and it came on a big, hard-backed poster board
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