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re: Home Improvement(dont trust the OT) Board.....A/C trouble

Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:51 pm to
Orifice and piston. HVAC folks are freaky
Posted by Boats n Hose
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Posted on 5/1/12 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by WoodCrafter
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 6:50 am to
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ok, I know nothing. Can you think of anything else that is specific to the type of freon that involves the coil. He specifically said that the new coil would have a pump/piston/thingamajig that needed to be converted to 22. I may have used the incorrect term. Is there another part that would need to be freon type specific? Thanks. Remember, talk to me like a 7 year old.


Ahh, much better. Sorry, I didn't mean to be an arse originally, it just chaps my hide when people are about to be ripped off, kinda like the blinker fluid thing.

Anyway, yes you will have to have a new piston for the coil else the evaporator will either have too much or too little refrigerant entering it.
The piston, which isn't a piston and it doesn't move, is nothing more than a fixed metering device. If anyone is interested I would be happy to give a short and sweet answers about how A/C systems function, on a seven year old level of course.

Your guy told you the straight of it even though it wasn't important to mention to you. His price is very good for a five ton coil change, fact is, that is a good price for a three ton coil.

Just be sure he installs a new drier at the outdoor section and all will be good.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 7:45 am to
My pops owns an AC company if you need someone you can trust. Sounds like you did okay though. Most people I have refered to them are shocked at the difference in the price they got vs the price of what actually needs fixing. Alot of times its the price of unit the others tried to replace vs a part and labor for a few hundred bucks.
Posted by tavolatim
denham springs
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 7:52 am to
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I've been doing HVAC work for 36 years and have never heard of an evaporator coil that has a R22 pump on it, in it or any where near it. The fact is, there is no such of a damn thing as a R22 pump unless they are talking about the compressor... yes, I'm telling you that there is a large cloud of smoke being blown up your butt.


could be a condensate pump. Unusual in an attic but if unit is setting too low for a fall on the drain line or you have a really long run then the condensate pump would serve a purpose...but as you said the pump(for freon) is the compressor.

Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:33 am to
Thanks. Will let you know if I feel I'm getting shafted. Putting secret cameras up all week, going Dateline NBC on em.

Woodcrafter, he didn't mention a drier, is this something I should call and inquire about, or is it such a standard of changing a coil I shouldn't have to ask?

Appreciate it.
Posted by WoodCrafter
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:56 am to
Driers should always be changed/installed on major repairs like that. That doesn't mean they are but they should be. There is no telling what is in the system or what might be introduced into it when it's opened.
You probably should check with them to be sure it's done though. Look at it like it is assurance insurance.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 9:58 am to
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going Dateline NBC on em.


Whats this have to do with little boys
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:34 am to
None

Just the fraud setups to catch mechaics, duct work, etc.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:35 am to
I love watchin that stuff. Now they are bustin peoples kids doin dumb chit and the parents cant believe it

ETA: you sound like you have an honest guy. Theyre are alot of idiots in the business though that want to fix everything with a new unit and I hate to see people get took.
This post was edited on 5/2/12 at 10:37 am
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 10:58 am to
They are well known in the area, you know them I am sure.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 11:01 am to
I almost got sued because of ACA(Still use though) and almost had to sue Peacher.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:39 pm to
I've used Stockwell for a while, never had anything but good service and I feel pretty good prices.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 12:57 pm to
He used to fish those circuits I fished. Nice guy.
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:02 pm to
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ACA


Is a joke.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:25 pm to
They're just a phone....call....away!
Posted by Langston
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:32 pm to
Pate and his co. did my last install, but they are out of the business now.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 1:37 pm to
The guy my dad went into business with was doin all my stuff, home and rentals. I just called him, not the company he was working for to make sure he was the one to do it.
After a while of dealing with him, pops made him an offer and now he works for my dad. He is the lone ranger and does everything himself.
ACA does our building at CLIC. I hate dealing with them. They send a different person everytime and none of them know shite it seems.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 3:07 pm to
Yes, drier is being replaced. Said you had to, "you never know what kinda crap is in there"
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