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Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:14 pm to Sashimi
This is the Shumard oak across the street from my house, and the 2nd photo is their next door neighbors Shumard oaks. All planted about 22-23 years ago, at a size not much larger than yours. Neighbor in the second photo replaced his centipede lawn last year with St Augustine because the centipede could no longer tolerate the shade, also did some simple landscaping around the trees using variegated flax lily and caladiums which looks great.


Posted on 4/27/20 at 12:36 pm to Sashimi
I have no idea how long it takes em to grow but pecan trees are the best shade tree around in my opinion. They do make a mess though between spring when they drop those damned worm looking thins...I think they may be seeds???? and then nuts all year and of course loads of leaves in the fall....Live Oaks probably don't lose all of their leaves in LA in the winter, do they? That'd be my choice if so and the growing time is comparable....I hate yard work in general and leaf raking specifically..as bad as a sound kick in the nuts!
Posted on 4/27/20 at 2:44 pm to CrawDude
Damn those schumards look nice. I did cut the top 2 or 3 feet off both the trees right after planting which I regret. The guy at plant store told me it would make them
Grow more shade.
My left tree is just jacked right now.
Branches only on 1 side mostly
This is the second one on the other side the yard
Damn slip n slide killed my grass the other day
I guess I’ll stick with these. I just hope one day they turn into a canopy
Grow more shade.
My left tree is just jacked right now.
Branches only on 1 side mostly
This is the second one on the other side the yard
Damn slip n slide killed my grass the other day
I guess I’ll stick with these. I just hope one day they turn into a canopy
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:06 pm to Sashimi
You’ll just need to give them time. Your trees look fine. The guy at the nursery wasn’t wrong in regards to pruning as removing a bit of the top of the central leader induces more branching below. Pruning is a science in itself and selective pruning when the tree is young is important to induce branching in the right areas but you want to minimally prune when the tree is young so that as much energy is possible to develop a good root system. Once you understand the principles of pruning and why you do it it’s a piece a cake. Never be afraid to selectively prune at the appropriate times. Here are a couple publication with tips to help you learn. LINK LINK
Also you don’t want to stake your trees more than 6 to 12 months . Tree movement from wind play as major role in strengthening the trunk.
Fertilize them in Feb and May for the first several years + to help push growth.
Go find a bunch of other house and lawn projects to work on and in about a decade you going to have some really nice trees.
Also you don’t want to stake your trees more than 6 to 12 months . Tree movement from wind play as major role in strengthening the trunk.
Fertilize them in Feb and May for the first several years + to help push growth.
Go find a bunch of other house and lawn projects to work on and in about a decade you going to have some really nice trees.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:31 pm to CrawDude
I guess I stunted then by moving them 15 months ago?
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:38 pm to Sashimi
What craw dude said about staking is spot on. Also don’t be afraid to fertilize at the drip zone and run a hose to them in the hot summer mos and give them regular soakings.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:42 pm to Sashimi
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guess I stunted then by moving them 15 months ago?
Sure - as you never get 100% of the root system when transplanting and damage many microscopic root hairs. No big deal, just consider it in terms of the trees being 15 months old rather than 3 years - you just reset the clock. Trees look healthy from your photos, but might be another year or 2 before they are completely settled in/established and start seeing the significant growth you desire.
Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:57 pm to CrawDude
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Also you don’t want to stake your trees more than 6 to 12 months . Tree movement from wind play as major role in strengthening the trunk.
I unstaked some stunted Leyland Cypresses on my place last fall and those suckers have grown about 24 inches since. I have another line of them on another side of the property that are still staked and they haven't grown at all. My wife is convinced they are going to blow away (I kind of hope they do....I need the parking space LOL) but they ain't yet and the wind blows 50MPH here about 4 days a week....
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:22 am to CrawDude
The tree on the left with almost no branches coming off of left side of tree, will more branches eventually sprout out off of the main bark?
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