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re: Firearm purchase in BR
Posted on 3/21/19 at 6:48 pm to Carson123987
Posted on 3/21/19 at 6:48 pm to Carson123987
He's doing just fine, and that won't change. Not scamming every sucker that walks through your door doesn't make you a terrible businessman. Not every gun shop thinks they're selling used cars.
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Posted on 3/21/19 at 7:29 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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He's doing just fine, and that won't change. Not scamming every sucker that walks through your door doesn't make you a terrible businessman. Not every gun shop thinks they're selling used cars.
look, i've always liked you because you're pretty intelligent, but save your schtick for M/TV and sports boards. it's already worn thin over here.
i cant believe im even responding to such a blatantly inflammatory post. it is not a scam. you have to pay employees to facilitate the transfer process. why should you not cover yourself for it? there is no guarantee of goodwill from customers who will think "they do free transfers, i will come back and shop here later." say you're a collector and have multiple firearms transferred each month. you'd seriously feel comfortable having the shop keep processing them for you for free? nevermind the opportunity cost of a shop having to attend to you.
the cheapest transfer fee you can find in BR is $10. i have never heard of a single shop doing it for free.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 7:38 pm to Carson123987
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look, i've always liked you because you're pretty intelligent, but save your schtick for M/TV and sports boards. it's already worn thin over here.
i cant believe im even responding to such a blatantly inflammatory post.
There's nothing inflammatory if you don't work in one of those shops. Even if you do, it isn't inflammatory, it's correct. There's no shortage of shady gun shops.
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it is not a scam.
For plenty of gun shops it is. $50 for a transfer? Let's not pretend that's anything else.
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you have to pay employees to facilitate the transfer process.
No, you don't. You know there are FFLs who do business out of their houses, right?
My FFL spent probably 10 minutes with me on my last transfer. The money I spend elsewhere in his shop isn't something he'd trade for a $25-50 fee.
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i have never heard of a single shop doing it for free.
That doesn't change the fact that this exists.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 7:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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There's nothing inflammatory if you don't work in one of those shops. Even if you do, it isn't inflammatory, it's correct. There's no shortage of shady gun shops.
the shop I worked at wasn't shady. It's one of the largest privately owned shops in the state.
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$50 for a transfer?
I told you, I don't take issue with people upset about the price. several shops charge that because they don't want to be inundated with transfers and would rather sell their own inventory.
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No, you don't
yes, you do
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You know there are FFLs who do business out of their houses, right?
yeah, im not talking about a podunk mom and pop outfit. im talking about an actual shop that has departments and employees and overhead. the gun just doesn't magically show up and make itself ready for transfer.
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That doesn't change the fact that this exists.
doesnt change the fact that it's moronic either. there is nothing "greedy" or "scammy" about covering your cost. $10-15 is what I would charge if I had my own FFL, especially if I was a smaller shop that didn't have a ton of inventory. it can be a good way for newer FFLs to make some easy cash.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 7:57 pm to Carson123987
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the shop I worked at wasn't shady. It's one of the largest privately owned shops in the state.
That's good. I think it's reasonable to charge a fee. I'm simply pointing out that there are FFLs who don't.
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I told you, I don't take issue with people upset about the price.
Ok. And where did I say anything was wrong with charging a reasonable fee?
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several shops charge that because they don't want to be inundated with transfers and would rather sell their own inventory.
Sure, and those shops don't get my business. I've found that those shops often do that because they overcharge.
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yes, you do ?
No, you don't.
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yeah, im not talking about a podunk mom and pop outfit. im talking about an actual shop that has departments and employees and overhead. the gun just doesn't magically show up and make itself ready for transfer.
Who cares about that? We're talking about transfers. Period.
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doesnt change the fact that it's moronic either.
Sure it does.
Look man, you were wrong. No big deal.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:08 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, you don't.
sorry you cant get this through your head. someone in the warehouse of a store has to receive the gun and log that it was received. it is then sent up to a staging area and distributed to the right department (in this case, guns). then, someone has to log the gun into an ATF log book. then, you go through the 10-15 minute process of actually transferring it with 4473 and NICS check. you're saying all that has no cost associated with it? all the people that prep the firearm for transfer work for free?
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Who cares about that? We're talking about transfers. Period.
you brought it up. when it's one guy running an FFL out of his garage, the cost isn't as significant since it's just his time at stake and not several other peoples' time.
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Sure, and those shops don't get my business. I've found that those shops often do that because they overcharge.
Bowie prices every single gun at MAP, literally as low as they're allowed to. there is no correlation between high transfer prices and high inventory markups. when you're housing millions of dollars in firearms inventory, wouldn't you rather try to move from it instead of getting bogged down with transfers all day?
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Look man, you were wrong. No big deal.
im done with you lol, you use this same bullshite troll technique every single time and I'm not going to expend any more of my time trying to combat it.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:20 pm to Carson123987
This...
...followed by this...
...shows me that you can't track the conversation. Is it intentional because you know you're wrong or are you being unintentionally ignorant?
There are a lot of people who do transfers without warehouses and departments and dozens of employees.
No, I didn't. You brought it up. Dude mentioned transfers. You're the one who brought large shops into it.
Neat. Now we're getting to the root of your issue. You're taking offense because you think I'm applying what I've said to your shop that I've never heard of or stepped in. That's silly.
You were done when you started pulling information out of your arse. Now you're just pissed that your bullshite was called out.
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sorry you cant get this through your head.
...followed by this...
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warehouse of a store
...shows me that you can't track the conversation. Is it intentional because you know you're wrong or are you being unintentionally ignorant?
There are a lot of people who do transfers without warehouses and departments and dozens of employees.
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you brought it up.
No, I didn't. You brought it up. Dude mentioned transfers. You're the one who brought large shops into it.
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Bowie
Neat. Now we're getting to the root of your issue. You're taking offense because you think I'm applying what I've said to your shop that I've never heard of or stepped in. That's silly.
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im done with you
You were done when you started pulling information out of your arse. Now you're just pissed that your bullshite was called out.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Why the hell wouldn’t someone charge for a service like an FFL transfer
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:24 pm to jimbeam
The same reason places don't charge for shipping. The same reason places don't charge for delivery. The same reason places don't charge for a number of fees.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
If you don’t pay shipping on a product bought on Brownell’s website, you still bought their product. They made money.
If I buy a gun online, have it shipped to DisplacedBuckeye Firearms, get it transferred for $0.00, you made no money.
If I buy a gun online, have it shipped to DisplacedBuckeye Firearms, get it transferred for $0.00, you made no money.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:28 pm to jimbeam
dont waste your breath. he's a goofy frickin kid that gets into arguments about shite he knows nothing about, then he shifts the goalposts around, props up strawmen, etc. he trolls literally every single board
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:29 pm to jimbeam
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If I buy a gun online, have it shipped to DisplacedBuckeye Firearms, get it transferred for $0.00, you made no money.
How much money do I make if you spend a few hundred dollars on reloading supplies every month or buy a rifle or order a custom 1911 through me?
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:30 pm to Carson123987
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he's a goofy frickin kid
I'm older than you are, sport.
Next time you're wrong, don't argue with me.
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he shifts the goalposts around, props up strawmen
You mean like pulling giant fricking warehouses full of people and guns into a discussion about transfers? Like that?
Clown.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I’d guess you’d likely be more expensive than online retailers, so again, I’d go online. I hardly buy in brick and mortar these days.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:33 pm to jimbeam
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I’d guess you’d likely be more expensive than online retailers, so again, I’d go online. I hardly buy in brick and mortar these days.
I buy from both. My FFL gets plenty of my business because when I do buy online, he doesn't give me shite or charge me $50.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
i brought that into the discussion because you said:
I simply explained how it works when that's not the case. that is not bringing a strawman into the conversation. most stores that people frequent are as I described.
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You know there are FFLs who do business out of their houses, right?
My FFL spent probably 10 minutes with me on my last transfer. The money I spend elsewhere in his shop isn't something he'd trade for a $25-50 fee.
I simply explained how it works when that's not the case. that is not bringing a strawman into the conversation. most stores that people frequent are as I described.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:46 pm to Carson123987
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i brought that into the discussion because you said:
Nonsense. You brought it up before I ever replied to you.
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you have to receive the gun in the warehouse, transfer it to the gun department, log it into your book, spend time with the customer so that they can fill out the 4473, run the NICS check, and get them out. that's one less actual sale you could be making with someone else.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 8:54 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Nonsense. You brought it up before I ever replied to you.
ah, so you can read. i described it there bc most people don't understand why there is a fee to begin with.
the fact that you read that post and then still made the comment about there not being costs to process a transfer tells me all I need to know. you know damn well I wasn't talking about mom and pop FFLs when I made that post.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:01 pm to Carson123987
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ah, so you can read.
Obviously. Odd that I've had to drag you along for so long, though...
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i described it there
You sure did.
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you know damn well I wasn't talking about mom and pop FFLs when I made that post.
I don't care what you were talking about. You made the comment that those don't exist. You were wrong. You could've just admitted that from the start.
Posted on 3/21/19 at 9:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
fricknuts acting like a functioning retard again. Color me shocked.
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