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re: DIY yard sprinkler system...water hookup

Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Cool. If they show me the placement and types of heads, I'll route the plumbing/lines. Neighbor and I are looking at going in 1/2s on a ditch witch and do his yard and mine together over a weekend type thing (he's government and I'm a contractor so we can take off together and do it over a 4 day weekend if necessary).



That is 100% the smartest way to do it if you can. Having done it myself, my suggestions are

1. plan plan plan. I cannot stress the importance of having a good design. You may have the head placement figured out once rainbird sends you back the diagram, but what about the valves, valve boxes, drains, and all of the other infrastructure. For example, I put a water release at the low spot in my lines to make winterization easier. I put gravel at the bottom of all of my valve boxes. I filtered all of my lines, etc.

2. If you want the best system you can build, avoid roto sprays and get rotary nozzles. The two best are Hunter MP Rotators and Rainbird RVAN. Hunter MPs spray .4 gal per minute while RVANs are .6 i think.

3. Figure out your water pressure. You have to call the city to get a nominal number and then you have to actually measure at the main. This is critical in deciding how many zones you need.

4. Make zones out of areas that will require similar watering. So if you have an area that you could put on one zone, but half of it is in heavy heat/sunlight and the other half is in heavy shade, you might consider separating that into two zones so you can give extra water to the heat-exposed lawn and not overwater the shaded areas. Same goes with landscaping. Don't run landscaping watering off your lawn zones, you'll always have a water imbalance somewhere.

5. Install automatic drains in the lines.

6. Automate your system with something like a Rachio Gen 2/Gen 3 timer. It makes all the difference in teh world being able to turn on your sprinklers with your phone and having a system that will skip a watering if it rained.

7. Rent one of the bigger trenchers when you actually do the project. It may sound stupid, but the smaller trenchers actually take more time and I have found upgrading to a slightly bigger trencher makes a huge difference.

8. Use PVC for the mains and not poly pipe. Poly pipe for the lateral lines is fine, though I have PVC all the way to the laterals and then ran poly pipe/swing joints to the spray heads.

9. Do not buy your spray heads from a big box store. Research the heads on the mfg. website and then buy from a direct store like sprinklerwarehouse.com
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by geauxcats10
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 3:05 pm to
Why not just dig a small well? Then all you’re paying for is electricity to run the tiny pump.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
8027 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Why not just dig a small well? Then all you’re paying for is electricity to run the tiny pump.



I'd love to but I've got this thing called a "Wife" who gets really pissy when I bring up spending $15k for something we don't need.

If it isn't regulated I may try at some point down the road.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 4:42 pm to
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Here are my coverage zones. It is my first attempt to get head-to-head coverage for the RVANs. I also reduced the spray radius by 2 feet as recommended by irrigationtutorials.com to compensate for wind.


Why do all your coverage zones overlap that much? Wouldn't it work just fine if the coverage zones were not touch each other? I would imagine the "uncovered" grass would do just fine feeding off the surrounding water, right?
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 4:45 pm to
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Why do all your coverage zones overlap that much? Wouldn't it work just fine if the coverage zones were not touch each other? I would imagine the "uncovered" grass would do just fine feeding off the surrounding water, right?



Negative. If you do not have head-to-head coverage (spray head to spray head) you will have gaps in water coverage. It is critical if you want to do your system right to have 100% overlap.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:02 pm to
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Negative. If you do not have head-to-head coverage (spray head to spray head) you will have gaps in water coverage. It is critical if you want to do your system right to have 100% overlap.


I understand..but if I have a 6" gap between 2 covered zones, you telling me that grass wouldnt get water from the surrounding soild?
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
8027 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:13 pm to
Technically no but I wouldn’t stress over 6 inch gaps between spray heads. I would not be okay with a 2 foot gap (meaning the coverage from one head was 2 ft short of the next head). I’m that case, factoring in wind, you could very easily have a big gap in watering.

With the overlap, you end up with a system that can put a lot of water down in a short time in a controlled setting, which is exactly what you want.
Posted by geauxcats10
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:45 pm to
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I'd love to but I've got this thing called a "Wife" who gets really pissy when I bring up spending $15k for something we don't need. If it isn't regulated I may try at some point down the road.



Huh?! Lol this isn’t a well for a house. It’s just a shallow water well. $300 max

You dig it by yourself.

Granted this is from a South La perspective with a high water table lol
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:59 pm to
Yeah that won’t fly here. I got to go down 150 ft
Posted by geauxcats10
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 6:21 pm to
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WarriorPoet


Gotcha! Carry on then
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Huh?! Lol this isn’t a well for a house. It’s just a shallow water well. $300 max

You dig it by yourself.


How? No backflow preventer needed...no water charges, no wastewater charges.....hmmmmmmmm
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by geauxcats10
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Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:43 pm to
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How? No backflow preventer needed...no water charges, no wastewater charges.....hmmmmmmmm



He just wants water to irrigate his landscaping and yard...

Drill Your Own Well Introduction

Here is a video showing the general idea once well is complete, run power and install shallow well jet pump and a surge tank if you desire. Then the rest is simple plumbing
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
1152 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:22 pm to
The most important aspect of irrigation systems is water volume.
Posted by Jimbeaux28
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
4085 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 10:55 pm to
I am in the process of doing my own 16 zone sprinkler system and have done everything you have done except renting the big trencher.

I went with what is called a ground saw that digs a 2 inch wide trench up to a foot deep and it leaves a much cleaner trench that is easy to back fill and lets the grass cover it back up in a very short time.

It didn’t take that long to trench either. I did around 600 feet in a little over an hour.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
8027 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:38 am to
I have seen those but haven’t had the chance to try one yet. Looks cool though. They get used for poly pipe a lot. The key with my big trencher comment is not necessarily the trench width but rather making sure you don’t rent an underpowered machine. It’s a huge pain in the arse to have a plan and the machine slow you down. Those ground saws don’t move as much dirt and seem to be powered well.

One reason I didn’t consider is because I lay sod over my trenches instead of patching it back up. I’m too impatient to let it fill back in I just sod the trench lines. So with that the trencher width is pretty close to the size of a sod square/roll and it works fairly well.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
1152 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 8:00 am to
The ground saws are awesome
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