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Relief Well Question?

Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:23 am
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:23 am
I see that the planned intersection depth for the relief wells are 18,000 ft below the sea floor. My question is why does it have to intersect so deep? Why couldn't they have intersected at 5,000-10,000 feet for a quicker fix? Or could they have done one shallow for a temporary stoppage, and the 2nd all the way down to 18,000 ft? After listening to T Boone Pickens on CNN last night, he seems to think that the relief wells are the only fix that will work. Potentially 1-2 months before they even stop it is frightening to say the least.



I am sure there is a logical explanation, I just can't seem to find it anywhere, and I know little to nothing about these things. TIA
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92675 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:27 am to
any chance you could link to where that diagram is so we can get a better look?

Thanks.
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:28 am to
LINK

you can download a high res pdf from this link
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:30 am to
I'll give this a go although I'm not an Oil engineer.


The top Kill is like pumping into the top of a T fitting. The BOP is the T. They are trying to get the mud to flow the path of MOST resistance while the other end of the T is open. (Broken riser). If this does not work, it stands to reason you must close off the T (which would be the kill lines used on the BOP).

Now you have the sub surface end and the riser. If you can get deep you can use the path of the flow and the resistance of the well to your advantage in order to attempt a clog.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:31 am to
i posted a pretty detailed explanation in this thread:

LINK
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:32 am to
How close am I Oil Field Tiger?
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:34 am to
it's a different kind of problem. w/ the relief well, you're going to kill it from bottom, but have to take into account that you can't do anything about the 5000' of SW on top of you.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:35 am to
In its simplest terms isnt pumping with the flow from underneath the big advantage?
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:51 am to
quote:

i'm obviously being very simplistic here to illustrate the point


that was simplistic? i am glad i am not an engineer!

Could a temporary shallower relief well have even slowed it down until the permanent well is completed? Are both wells required for the kill, or is the 2nd just a redundant safety mechanism?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62480 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 12:01 pm to
Think of it like this. You have a long tube, like a straw with oil and gas rushing up to the top. The idea is to fill that tube with mud that's heavy enough to push down harder than the oil is being pushed up.

If you put the mud in the top, most of it just gets blown out of the hole. Until the the tube is full, the column isn't heavy enough to stop the flow. So, you have to keep putting mud in hoping that enough of it sinks past the upcoming oil and gas to eventually fill the entire hole.

If you put the mud in from the bottom, the mud doesn't get lifted up, and it doesn't have to sink against the upward flow. It simply sits on the bottom. As you pump more mud, it fills up from the bottom to top.
Posted by ellasue2
Baton Rouge La
Member since Oct 2009
1791 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Think of it like this. You have a long tube, like a straw with oil and gas rushing up to the top. The idea is to fill that tube with mud that's heavy enough to push down harder than the oil is being pushed up. If you put the mud in the top, most of it just gets blown out of the hole. Until the the tube is full, the column isn't heavy enough to stop the flow. So, you have to keep putting mud in hoping that enough of it sinks past the upcoming oil and gas to eventually fill the entire hole. If you put the mud in from the bottom, the mud doesn't get lifted up, and it doesn't have to sink against the upward flow. It simply sits on the bottom. As you pump more mud, it fills up from the bottom to top.

"Well" put. No pun intended.
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