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re: Ok so who on here has actual ties to the Oil and Gas industry

Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:19 am to
Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2581 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:19 am to
So, whose dick was the biggest?

5th generation oilman here. But i've only been actually working for 5 years.
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 10:22 am
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49841 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:22 am to
3rd year Petroleum Engineering student

Dad's been working for MMS forever and I've always been intrigued and listen and follow whats going on



ETA: and i've interned at MMS for 1 year and I'm going back in 2 weeks
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 8:39 pm
Posted by TailgatinTigers
NOLA BABY
Member since Sep 2007
704 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:01 am to
Last 16 years as a Schlumberger logging specialist, assigned to the ultra deepwater rigs.


As a matter of fact I am out here in Walker Ridge right now!
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 11:13 am
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10728 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:16 am to
18yrs and just spent the last 2+ building a new 6th Gen DP Semi.

I would truly like to know the whole story here. I just find it amazing that the safety practices that are practiced today failed.

As I've mentioned before my company had a drillship do basically the same thing but they closed the stack and controlled the well. The rig floor burned and was completely destroyed but no one was killed. This is what should have happened in the case, unless the pressure was to great for the stack to handle.

I can't see how BP can get out of any liability here. Transocean was following BP's orders as to how to drill the well. We are contractors we operate under their orders.
Posted by davy jones
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2009
365 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:03 pm to
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I took the Intro to Petroleum Engineering class at LSU in the fall of 01.


so did i.

work for a service company now, 15 months in the field (all land stuff). 2 years in the office now
Posted by crazyLSUfan
LA (Lower Alabama)
Member since Aug 2006
6698 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:15 pm to
<-- 35 miles miles south of the Macondo well. I'm in production chemicals, not drilling though.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40552 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:19 pm to
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Again, there should be multiple eyes on the pits in that situation. The safety of a drilling rig should not be left up to only the mudlogger.


I never said it was all on them but I know for fact that mud loggers were aboard and they should have also been monitoring the pits. The primary fault of not detecting the kick goes on the driller who unfortunately perished in the accident.

The blowout itself was a result of gross complacency by TransOcean, BP and the Halliburton mud loggers. Everyone thought just because the well was cased off they were fine.

You can bet that cement bond logs will now be mandatory on all production strings.
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 3:21 pm
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8947 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:21 pm to
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The blowout itself was a result of gross complacency by TransOcean, BP and the Halliburton mud loggers. Everyone thought just because the well was cased off they were fine.

You can bet that cement bong logs will nowt be mandatory on all production strings.


Dont forget the cementing crew, and was a CBL not run on this well? I thought that was a requirement?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40552 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Dont forget the cementing crew, and was a CBL not run on this well? I thought that was a requirement?


I'm assuming CBLs were not run. They may have planned to run them when the completions rig moved in.
It's been a few years since I worked offshore but I don't recall CBLs being a requirement.
Posted by gliterein
Member since Aug 2008
201 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

The blowout itself was a result of gross complacency by TransOcean, BP and the Halliburton mud loggers. Everyone thought just because the well was cased off they were fine.


Redstick,

I thought that the MI SWACO guys were the mud engineers and that Haliburton did the cementing jobs?

Two SWACO guys died in the explosion (one of them apparently called his wife 10 minutes before the explosion).

The two Haliburton guys were sleeping, so they must have felt safe with the cementing that they had run.
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
40552 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Redstick,

I thought that the MI SWACO guys were the mud engineers and that Haliburton did the cementing jobs?

Two SWACO guys died in the explosion (one of them apparently called his wife 10 minutes before the explosion).

The two Haliburton guys were sleeping, so they must have felt safe with the cementing that they had run.


The two mud engineers did work for MI Swaco and they did die but they would of had little to do with the blowout. It was BP's decision to displace with water from 3,000 below the ML up which may have contributed but likely did not. When they displaced the riser to pull off location the well would have blown no matter what.

As for the Halliburton cementers, you will usually find them either in the galley or in their beds. That's not unusual. Once they pump the cement and clean their units their job is finished. With the positive and negative pressure testing done there was no reason for them to suspect the cement job. That's why I question if a CBL was run. A CBL would of confirmed a good cement job. This doesn't mean that Halliburton didn't mess up during the actual process of cementing. It's not uncommon for them to.
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 4:09 pm
Posted by TailgatinTigers
NOLA BABY
Member since Sep 2007
704 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I'm assuming CBLs were not run



You are correct I work for a big logging company and we had a crew there to run CBL's and they were canceled and sent in the afternoon of the accident.

Posted by gliterein
Member since Aug 2008
201 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:10 pm to
Redstick, who would have been watching the mud pits for flow?
Posted by gliterein
Member since Aug 2008
201 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

You are correct I work for a big logging company and we had a crew there to run CBL's and they were canceled and sent in the afternoon of the accident.


I suspect that the decision to cancel the CBLs will now be viewed with a heightened degree of scrutiny.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8947 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

You are correct I work for a big logging company and we had a crew there to run CBL's and they were canceled and sent in the afternoon of the accident.


And this is why I said BP is the ultimate responsible party, because they make these calls.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40552 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Redstick, who would have been watching the mud pits for flow?


1)Driller 2)Derrickman 3)Mudloggers

I was told the derrickman called his driller to ask for help because "mud was all over the pit room". That mud would have been running over the pits because the well was being displaced with gas. Something the driller should have noticed.

Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8947 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Redstick, who would have been watching the mud pits for flow?


Derrickman would have seen this for sure and mudloggers pit sensors would have gone off the scale.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40552 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

And this is why I said BP is the ultimate responsible party, because they make these calls.


They will certainly be held accountable to a certain degree but they were operating within the rules set for them. I would bank big money that CBLs will be mandatory going forward.

TransOcean will still share some of the blame because they should have noticed the well kicking. So should the mudloggers. If that had been picked up on early the well could have still been safely shut in.

And of course Halliburton cementing will come under fire for a faulty cement job.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20594 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:23 pm to
Im guessing the CBL is a way for them to check the cement job? Can someone explain the process please.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 4:24 pm to
the CBL is a cement bond log. it's a tool run in the hole on wireline that allows you to evaluate the quality of the bond between the cement, the formation, and the casing.
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