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a couple questions
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:39 pm
i know very little about this situation except that it's horrible. please excuse my noobness....
is there only one leak?
if so, approximately how big is it and how much pressure are we talking?
i'm sure it's been thought of and probably not feasible, but why are they not sucking/vacuuming some of the oil?
if there is only one leak, why don't they put some type of huge vacuum down at the leak (or multiple vacuums) which suck the oil through tubes up to barges on the surface where it can be taken away or at least purified in some way.
i realize it may bee too deep for this to be realistic, but is anything like this possible? i understand they wouldn't be able to suck up all the oil being spewed out, but even if they were able to catch 10%, that's 10% less ending up on our beaches. if something like this is possible, they could be doing this while they're trying to figure out a permanent solution (which may take months)
is there only one leak?
if so, approximately how big is it and how much pressure are we talking?
i'm sure it's been thought of and probably not feasible, but why are they not sucking/vacuuming some of the oil?
if there is only one leak, why don't they put some type of huge vacuum down at the leak (or multiple vacuums) which suck the oil through tubes up to barges on the surface where it can be taken away or at least purified in some way.
i realize it may bee too deep for this to be realistic, but is anything like this possible? i understand they wouldn't be able to suck up all the oil being spewed out, but even if they were able to catch 10%, that's 10% less ending up on our beaches. if something like this is possible, they could be doing this while they're trying to figure out a permanent solution (which may take months)
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Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:46 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
duck
and
How did you ever get approved with a username like that?
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How did you ever get approved with a username like that?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:49 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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catch 10%, that's 10% less ending up on our beaches
Yeah but less than 1% is actually ending up on the beaches
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
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How did you ever get approved with a username like that?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
it doesn't matter. if they are able to catch/vacuum 1% of the oil coming out, it's better than nothing. it's just spewing freely into the gulf while they're trying to figure out a permanent solution.
is it not possible to catch some of this oil at the source? once again, even if it's only 1%, it's better than nothing
is it not possible to catch some of this oil at the source? once again, even if it's only 1%, it's better than nothing
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:52 pm to tgrbaitn08
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How did you ever get approved with a username like that?
well, it's kinda true statistically
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:54 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
quote:
it doesn't matter. if they are able to catch/vacuum 1% of the oil coming out, it's better than nothing. it's just spewing freely into the gulf while they're trying to figure out a permanent solution.
is it not possible to catch some of this oil at the source? once again, even if it's only 1%, it's better than nothing
They dont have to catch it at the source, they actually have boats out there skimming and the rest they'll just wait and clean it off the beaches.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:57 pm to tgrbaitn08
wouldn't it be easier and better for our water/beaches if they caught it at the source (if possible) so we don't have to go around scraping it off the beaches when it's too late and everything is dead?
i guess my main question is, is this not logistically possible?
i guess my main question is, is this not logistically possible?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:57 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Liar. Florida has never dominated the SEC for more than 2 years at a timt.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:58 pm to lammo
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Liar. Florida has never dominated the SEC for more than 2 years at a timt.
we have a winning record versus every SEC team since before 1950. (except for bama now, by one or two games i believe)
and this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 7:59 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
They tried catching it at the source with the TOP HAT and it failed. Now they are trying something similar to the TOP HAT
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:10 pm to tgrbaitn08
ok, i thought the top hat was a way of plugging the hole. (i said i wasn't very knowledgeable on this topic). but couldn't they be temporarily sucking some of the oil out before it reaches the surface/beaches while they're still searching for a permanent solution?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:18 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I will try to help...
all the information is above in the 120 page thread.
Your idea will not work because pressurized (vacuum) sea water / petrol form hydrates, think ice crystals, that clog the pipe, make it float, etc.
Not possible.
Have to have seal on pipe, pump methanol and other chemicals into the mix to evaporate hydrates.
When you are one mile underwater the laws of physics are different. It might as well be on another planet.
the TOP Hat LMRP is basically your idea but with a seal. If it works it will be brilliant. but it is an engineering hail mary.
So gator man, say your prayers. Join the rest of us. And good luck with that username on making any long term SEC friends.
all the information is above in the 120 page thread.
Your idea will not work because pressurized (vacuum) sea water / petrol form hydrates, think ice crystals, that clog the pipe, make it float, etc.
Not possible.
Have to have seal on pipe, pump methanol and other chemicals into the mix to evaporate hydrates.
When you are one mile underwater the laws of physics are different. It might as well be on another planet.
the TOP Hat LMRP is basically your idea but with a seal. If it works it will be brilliant. but it is an engineering hail mary.
So gator man, say your prayers. Join the rest of us. And good luck with that username on making any long term SEC friends.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:22 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
One more thing - there is no way to plug this hole.
The only permanent solution comes in August.
The only permanent solution comes in August.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:25 pm to bayouprophet
thank you bayouprophet, that's the type of explanation i was looking for 
i really hope they figure this out soon.
i really hope they figure this out soon.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 8:31 pm to bayouprophet
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The only permanent solution comes in August.
is this the relief well they're talking about taking 2 more months to complete?
and i try to avoid the SEC Rant (aka Bama Lovefest) until the season starts. that place is horrible right now
Posted on 6/2/10 at 10:21 pm to bayouprophet
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When you are one mile underwater the laws of physics are different. It might as well be on another planet.
Actually, the laws of physics are the same at the wellhead as on the surface. The pressure is different, but this difference is incorporated into the laws. We may not commonly use pressure in many shorthand equations, but it is there in the long forms, nonetheless.
Posted on 6/3/10 at 5:41 am to LSU80 USF08
Physics are physics, yes no matter where you go....
I just overstating the fact that pressure from the oil below flowing up, and pressure from the depth of the water, plus natural currents, and temperatures, and the nature of a salt water environment, and factors from buoyancies make it like it is on another planet compared to operating on the surface.
But yes, physics are physics.
I just overstating the fact that pressure from the oil below flowing up, and pressure from the depth of the water, plus natural currents, and temperatures, and the nature of a salt water environment, and factors from buoyancies make it like it is on another planet compared to operating on the surface.
But yes, physics are physics.
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