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re: Why do you think that TD is such a magnet for those with alternative beliefs?

Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:39 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:39 am to
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We're stripped down to nothing but "what about the spacewalks?"


No. You said you wanted a repeatable experiment. I offered the mathematical proof of a repeatable experiment, and then you denied that it could actually be repeatable because of some evidence of the 'fakeness' of the ISS that you haven't presented at all. That's what happened. There's one standard for me and another standard for yourself and the standard for yourself is far, far lower, which you never address.

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You can look hard for the scientific, repeatable proof and it will always come down to just trust them, it seems to make sense, the math works out.


There are numerous hypotheses with testable claims and you would absolutely deny them all, because you are operating in bad-faith from the beginning. On top of that, there's no proof for your position and you never seem to confront that. It's a very dishonest position.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:46 am to
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hint, genetics and evolution go hand in hand, and they both are under the umbrella of "science"


The Darwinist Cult



"Impossible Sh*t IS Muh-Sh*t!"

The Evolutionary 'Scientists' and Cultists:

Dying on THIS Hill: "Nothing" made EVERYTHING . Then "evolved into stuff".







This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 11:48 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:50 am to
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There are numerous hypotheses with testable claims and you would absolutely deny them all, because you are operating in bad-faith from the beginning. On top of that, there's no proof for your position and you never seem to confront that. It's a very dishonest position.



None of that is true. Obviously I was taught the same things you were.

My biggest real world proof remains the geometry. We are generally not familiarized even in physics classes with how curved the earth should be. Once you do familiarize yourself, it does not hold up to tests and observation
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:55 am to
I think it's because dum dum creationists got to where they are by literally not knowing how to think, that it's what allows them to remain so deeply unaware of how stupid they project out to others when they act aggressively ignorant in the name of defending their fanfiction understanding of the world.

This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 11:56 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:01 pm to
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None of that is true. Obviously I was taught the same things you were.



Yeah it is. I'd be willing to bet my education exceeds yours.

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My biggest real world proof remains the geometry. We are generally not familiarized even in physics classes with how curved the earth should be. Once you do familiarize yourself, it does not hold up to tests and observation



What? I did a layman's description of the derivation of the formulas used to determine Earth's curvature, and you didn't understand it.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:02 pm to
It's all a random big bang of space, but our Sun at it million of miles distance is exactly proportional to the size of the nearer moon, against infinite odds.

It's all a random big bang of space, but the various stars in distant other galaxies with their own orbits have never changed their pattern from our perspective, from our perspective rotate 100% predictably around a fixed north star in the middle forever and ever through all of human history, with no parallax lines that should be shown from positional star shift.

Such incredible coincidences.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:03 pm to
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There are numerous hypotheses with testable claims and you would absolutely deny them all...

... There's one standard for me and another standard for yourself and the standard for yourself is far, far lower, which you never address.


Do you see the irony here?

You abide in ZERO "standards of proof".

A standard of which remains the following:

"Knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method."


Institutional Scientists (whose sponsors are Pagan-Luciferians to advance an anti-God Agenda) rely far more on THEORETIC and pseudo Science than anything; Yet, they are still filed under "Facts" and "SCIENCE".

Evolution? "Big Bang"? Time "measurements"? "Space" distance, stars, planets, and their "substance"?

Please. Come on, man.

"Space" and NASA is proven to be one giant hoax and sloppy dinner theater for its heavily indoctrinated, Stockholm Syndrome victims.

You nor anyone of your cohorts here can "prove" ANY of it.

I'm embarrassed for you guys. NONE of what we are actually just "theories" and wishful thinking fairy tales (like the subject of NASA-Disney program) hasever actually "tested" nor "provable Science".
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Yeah it is. I'd be willing to bet my education exceeds yours.

Ok. We'll do IQ too. Who will proctor?
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What? I did a layman's description of the derivation of the formulas used to determine Earth's curvature, and you didn't understand it.
I don't believe you.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Ok. We'll do IQ too. Who will proctor?



We can do the Miller's Analogy Test if you'd like, or you could take my medical board scores as proof.

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I don't believe you.



Do you want me to post the part where you thought it actually supported your point?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:06 pm to
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We can do the Miller's Analogy Test if you'd like, or you could take my medical board scores as proof.
Deal.
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Do you want me to post the part where you thought it actually supported your point?



Yes, it is like pulling teeth to actually get you to make a point. Make a point.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:07 pm to
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"Knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method."



You've never once used any method to come to a conclusion other than what is told to you. Your claims are not repeatable.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Deal.



My board scores very high, thankfully.

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Yes, it is like pulling teeth to actually get you to make a point. Make a point.



LINK

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:10 pm to
Is this dude serious?

The earth Curvature Formula Theory is blown out of the water by objects and earth seen anywhere from 30 of miles and much further -- whether through Nikon 900-1000 on clear days, and especially thru infrared photography enabled from the air.

These examples alone proves a flat, plane Earth.

These kinds of distances can obviously NOT happen and be seen on a Globe Earth (according to it's OWN claim of the "Curvature" Formula.) YET...the True Believer Globe/Luciferian/Gummint Cultists deny their own eyes.

Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:11 pm to
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You've never once used any method to come to a conclusion other than what is told to you.
That's the definition of a doctor. Being a doctor is not impressive in my family.

Now show me a study that conclusively proves aerosol human-to-human transmission of ANY disease. Also, explain how the placebo effect, which you consider so well established that you will never accept a study on drug efficacy that isn't rigorously tested against it, is not indicative of the power of faith.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:11 pm to
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The earth Curvature Formula Theory is blown out of the water by objects and earth seen anywhere from 30 of miles and much further -- whether through Nikon 900-1000 on clear days, and especially thru infrared photography enabled from the air.

These examples alone proves a flat, plane Earth.


Post the math. Let's see it.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:13 pm to
Does that thinking apply to all your stupid beliefs about the flat earth and bricks not being transportable on ships?
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:23 pm to
Mr Super Duper Doocter with the incredible 125 IQ you need to be looking for those studies, it's kind of a big part of your whole profession....

Come on show me where they took spit and snot from sick people, gave it to the healthy people and they got sick. Don't you think that's kind of important to what you believe and practice?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:27 pm to
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Now show me a study that conclusively proves aerosol human-to-human transmission of ANY disease


To be clear here, you mean aerosol transmission defined by particle diameter? The first conclusive study was done by William and Mildred Wells in the context of TB. I can't find the full-text study at the moment, but here is the link. LINK

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Also, explain how the placebo effect, which you consider so well established that you will never accept a study on drug efficacy that isn't rigorously tested against it, is not indicative of the power of faith.




Oh I definitely think there is a 'belief' based aspect to recovery from illness. I've seen it for myself. Describing the degree and pattern of belief is difficult to standardize though. You can't really measure something 'faith-based' in a discrete sense through its description into a 'dimensionless' form.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:29 pm to
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The first conclusive study was done by William and Mildred Wells in the context of TB
They put aerosol TB and other toxins in the air system and infected guinea pigs. That's not even close.

Human to human aerosol transmission.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Come on show me where they took spit and snot from sick people, gave it to the healthy people and they got sick. Don't you think that's kind of important to what you believe and practice?



This shows your ignorance in a massive way. Do you understand why taking something as large as 'snot' or phlegm and giving that to a healthy person won't necessarily make that healthy person sick? It's not faith-based and there is a specific physiologic explanation that your body already accounts for.
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