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re: What will baton rouge look like in 20 years?
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:13 pm to Klark Kent
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:13 pm to Klark Kent
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But your 2 drive through visits to Detroit and Windsor don’t make you any more of an expert on those cities than I am with my 2 trips to Detroit.
Fair enough.
But my original point is that when people include Detroit in their list of usual suspects of mostly Democratic controlled and tragically depreciating cities (i.e. BR, Jackson, Montgomery, Memphis,) it's a classic case of "one of these is not quite like the others", and ultimately does nothing to strengthen what ever argument they are trying to make.
From the '20's to the '70's, Detroit was the 4th and 5th largest city in the country. By the '50's it starts to become city haunted by other "ghosts" and dynamics that finds itself in it's present state long before incompetent Democratic leadership became a phenomenom.
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:17 pm to fallguy_1978
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I used to live in Manchester a long time ago. That's those ghetto apartments at O'Neal and S Harrells Ferry. Jay's Donuts dude warned that building St Jean would destroy that area and it kind of did but Manchester is even worse now.
Is any of this in …. St. George
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:19 pm to GreenRockTiger
Manchester was in the original map. I don't remember if it's in the updated one. I figured they included it for a little diversity score improvement on Niche should they eventually get their own schools.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:24 pm to fallguy_1978
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Manchester was in the original map
Lol - it doesn’t matter - it’s not like criminals have shock collars that stop them at the city limits, and I think if the St George ppl want to incorporate, that’s their right
But incorporating isn’t going to stop any crime, there’s enough crime everywhere to prove that
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:28 pm to bdavids09
Don't care, as I will be long gone from this shithole by then
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:29 pm to GreenRockTiger
The St George area in its entirety is much safer than BR but I think they'd eventually need their own police force to keep it that way. This is going to be dragged out in the courts for years though I think. BR can't afford to lose that tax base.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:31 pm to GreenRockTiger
Most older midsized cities in the South are stagnant or dying. They are aging, no industry is knocking at the door. Its the hotter, more humid version of the rust belt.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:31 pm to bdavids09
Mogadishu
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most older midsized cities in the South are stagnant or dying. They are aging, no industry is knocking at the door. Its the hotter, more humid version of the rust belt.
Astute observation and I agree 100%. Huntsville, Raleigh/Durham, Charlotte and Nashville come to mind as being tech forward and attracting jobs for our future hence how these places are growing and not stagnant like their other southern counterparts.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:46 pm to Paul Allen
The thing that would improve BR would be to attract some large white collar employers but what company is going to come here? Jindal got Albemarle to come but they left because they were unable to get college grads to move here.
It almost feels like it would have to be some homegrown businesses committed to staying but it seems like they leave too like Canes.
It almost feels like it would have to be some homegrown businesses committed to staying but it seems like they leave too like Canes.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:47 pm to fallguy_1978
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unable to get college grads to move here.
In my lifetime it’s always been this way. How are you going to do this with ailing public schools, poor infrastructure and increasing crime?
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:51 pm to Paul Allen
My guess is that the best case scenario for BR is to develop better suburbs and try to duplicate the Birmingham model where the vast majority of the middle class and wealthy live in the burbs but work in the city. Our burbs just aren't anywhere close to on par. Even Jackson has nicer suburbs.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:54 pm to fallguy_1978
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unable to get college grads to move here
Or keep college grads - when I graduated from library school, plenty moved away bc Louisiana pays crap for librarians - and I know that librarians aren’t necessary but we didn’t go get a masters to be paid less
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:58 pm to GreenRockTiger
Jobs in my field (IT) have actually improved here since I started in the late 90s. But I think that's just more out of necessity due to technology shifts in most industries. There is just more demand across the board now than there was then.
I could make more in a big city but no longer have any desire to live in one.
I could make more in a big city but no longer have any desire to live in one.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 7/17/21 at 3:02 pm to baseballmind1212
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If Exxon leaves, the other big boys will follow.
It’s only a matter of time before that idiot government decides they need to pay their “fair share”.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 3:41 pm to fallguy_1978
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My guess is that the best case scenario for BR is to develop better suburbs and try to duplicate the Birmingham model where the vast majority of the middle class and wealthy live in the burbs but work in the city. Our burbs just aren't anywhere close to on par. Even Jackson has nicer suburbs.
As much as $hitting on BR just for the sake of it has become an anathema to me, and that's certainly not what I'm suggesting you are doing here, but you are absolutely correct.
There is nothing even close to Hoover outside of BR, and I'm not sure that there is any area (Denham Springs, Prairieville, Zachary) capable of becoming that.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 4:05 pm to Amadeo
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There is nothing even close to Hoover outside of BR, and I'm not sure that there is any area (Denham Springs, Prairieville, Zachary) capable of becoming that.
Granted, there has been a lot of growth in the burbs during my lifetime but it all seems poorly planned and kind of like patchwork building.
Like let's build 5 big, nice subdivisions in the middle of nowhere Ascension Parish on this two lane rural highway but not do anything about the roads, drainage or infrastructure.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 4:07 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:All gov gives a shite about is the additional tax revenue.
Like let's build 5 big, nice subdivisions in the middle of nowhere Ascension Parish on this two lane rural highway but not do anything about the roads, drainage or infrastructure.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 4:08 pm to fallguy_1978
It’s not just Birmingham with nice suburbs. Austin, Nashville, Houston, Dallas, Charlotte, etc…all have very nice suburbs.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 4:12 pm to Paul Allen
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It’s not just Birmingham with nice suburbs. Austin, Nashville, Houston, Dallas, Charlotte, etc…all have very nice suburbs.
Those are all much larger markets though. Birmingham is a little bigger but still a mid sized city. Jackson is smaller than BR but you can also look at places like Mobile. It seems like most other Southern mid sized cities have developed some pretty nice burbs that are attractive for young families.
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