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re: Was WCW Sabotaged?

Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49477 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:06 pm to
Russo got lucky that Vince screwed Hart. Him claiming he invented the attitude era..please.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:08 pm to
I watched that channel too on justin tv.
Sadly there is no more justin tv
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:10 pm to
His storylines.

I was there bro
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1702 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:12 pm to
Snip of Russo while at WWF:

LINK

quote:

So, Russo pretty much had a cup of coffee in the WWF, where he had a few good ideas and took credit for everything else. He then followed that up by bankrupting the most well-funded wrestling company in the history of the world and then he destroys Vince McMahon’s only competition to the point that a lot of people in TNA at points in time thought that Vince McMahon was still paying Vince Russo to not come back to the WWF…”
-- Jim Cornette
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16970 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:13 pm to
Wcw wasn't creating/putting out new talent. Except for a handful. It was the same folks passing the belt around to each other basically.
Posted by mommas boy
Member since Sep 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:13 pm to
DDP!!
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107519 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:14 pm to
Allowing talentless hack Kevin Nash to be the head booker was a death knell.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16970 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Allowing talentless hack Kevin Nash to be the head booker was a death knell.


/thread


And with that being said, this gif needs to be posted

Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1702 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:18 pm to
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this gif


That shite was funny though.

Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

People talk about how revolutionary WCW was but the Attitude era is what changed wrestling forever



No one talked about WCW being revolutionary. ECW was the innovator, WCW and WWF both copied and raided talent.

Competition is good for business, complacency sets in without it. If ECW had legit business people running the administrative side of it instead of coked out Paul Heyman and in ring workers that couldn't read balance sheets trying to swing PPV deals and TV contracts they could have put WCW under on their own. Heyman didn't treat guys fairly and they took the guaranteed money from the big boys.

WWF simply had the dollars to ride out lean times and invest in talent splurges and since they were behind they had more incentive to take risks on younger guys to steal eyeballs.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49477 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:19 pm to
"Storylines" lol ...delivery and talent were everything. It's why he couldn't do anything in wcw or tna. Vince was A filter to Russo. 75% of russos crap was exactly that.

Steve, Shawn and Rocky had amazing Mic skills and ring presence. Foley was a great speaker as well and wasn't afraid to make up for what he didn't have with sacrificing himself.

Six wwf guys owned all wcw had to offer.


I always like Scott Hall though, the character of Razor cracked me up. I wish he could get control of his life.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:21 pm to
Finger poke of doom.

Miss elizabeth rip was being investigated by atl police which was just across the street from the atlanta dome.Such a bad angle/storyline
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16970 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:25 pm to
I miss DDP and his diamondcutter. He would hit it so smoothly from any angle.


Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:29 pm to
I could believe it. Never seen something that cool original and cutting edge go to shite so quicky.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11902 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:30 pm to
Still no Nitro on WWE Network.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49477 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:36 pm to
What is the wwe network library looking like? Was wanting to rewatch raw from like 1995-1999
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11902 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:46 pm to
They have every episode up to the end of 1995 and 2012 to present. A few episodes in each of the other years.

Every Saturday Night Main Event and Clash of the Champions, though. Those have been relatively recent additions.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19477 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 5:52 pm to
The days of Jake the Snake, The ultimate warrior, The undertaker, Andre the giant, and hogan were some awesome days
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27168 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

Snip of Russo while at WWF:

LINK

quote:
So, Russo pretty much had a cup of coffee in the WWF, where he had a few good ideas and took credit for everything else. He then followed that up by bankrupting the most well-funded wrestling company in the history of the world and then he destroys Vince McMahon’s only competition to the point that a lot of people in TNA at points in time thought that Vince McMahon was still paying Vince Russo to not come back to the WWF…”

-- Jim Cornette



I've heard something similar before. That Russo worked in the WWF so well because he'd come up with ideas but had to go through the Vince McMahon filter. In WCW there was no filter.

I know the WWF/E also has a history of coming up with some incredibly stupid ideas but didn't WCW create a Gene Simmons KISS character?
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 6:19 pm to
Once the NWO became too big for it's own good (Wolfpac/White & Black) and it started letting anyone in is when the WCW crumbled. NWO was no longer "cool" and they even tried to branch off into their own product.
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