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re: Vader’s Model Desk: PzKpfw VI Tiger I (early version)
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:24 pm to duckblind56
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:24 pm to duckblind56
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I've heard this several times, was even mentioned in BoB. What was it about the 88 that created the fear?
Far more powerful with much more range than the majority of the tank guns it went up against.
And German optics made that range usable.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 9:32 pm
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:39 pm to duckblind56
quote:
I've heard this several times, was even mentioned in BoB. What was it about the 88 that created the fear?
Two things..
1. Mass of the project
2. Velocity of the projectile
These two factors meant the 88 was damn good at penetrating armor at great distance. But it did not start its life as an anti-tank gun. It was designed to be an high altitude anti-aircraft gun. In order to get a shell to high altitude, you have to throw it really, really hard. That’s why it was designed as a high velocity gun. It was during the Battle of France, when the Wehrmacht had to go up against French tanks with much superior armor than their panzers*, that the Germans resorted to using their towed 88’s in an anti-tank role.
* little know fact about the German invasion of France in May 1940, the French actually had much better tanks. The French tanks like Char B1 and Souma had superior firepower and much superior armor than the Panzer IV and Panzer III. And the standard German towed anti-tank gun, the 3.7 Cm Pak 36 proved worse than useless. The only German advantages when it comes to tanks in the French Campaign of 1940 was in tactics, communication (most French tanks didn’t have a radio), and crew training.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:45 pm to Darth_Vader
Yes, and, also concerning other aspects of WWI, British Propaganda controlled our "knowledge" of what happened.
The Sinking of the Lusitania is another good example. It was a Passenger Ship sunk by the Huns because they wanted to kill women and children in horrible unrestricted submarine warfare. That was the "history" of what happened for about 100 years. Not until some deep sea divers explored the wreck of the Lusitania did we know the truth.
"At time of her sinking the primarily passenger-carrying vessel had in her hold around 173 tons of war supplies, comprising 4.2 million rounds of rifle ammunition, almost 5,000 shrapnel-filled artillery shell casings and 3,240 brass percussion fuses." -- Wikipedia
The Government of Great Britain never admitted the truth about the Lusitania until the maritime law required the wreck site's contents to be announced for safety reasons - about 100 years after it was sunk.
The Sinking of the Lusitania is another good example. It was a Passenger Ship sunk by the Huns because they wanted to kill women and children in horrible unrestricted submarine warfare. That was the "history" of what happened for about 100 years. Not until some deep sea divers explored the wreck of the Lusitania did we know the truth.
"At time of her sinking the primarily passenger-carrying vessel had in her hold around 173 tons of war supplies, comprising 4.2 million rounds of rifle ammunition, almost 5,000 shrapnel-filled artillery shell casings and 3,240 brass percussion fuses." -- Wikipedia
The Government of Great Britain never admitted the truth about the Lusitania until the maritime law required the wreck site's contents to be announced for safety reasons - about 100 years after it was sunk.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:50 pm to Champagne
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The Government of Great Britain never admitted the truth about the Lusitania until the maritime law required the wreck site's contents to be announced for safety reasons - about 100 years after it was sunk.
Yep, I remember this story broke. One of many lies about the war.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:01 am to Darth_Vader
Impressive work as usual. My upvote cancels out one of the downvotes
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:06 am to Darth_Vader
Nice! I need to see a display of your models.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:41 am to Darth_Vader
Thanks for the info.
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