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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:34 pm to Macphisto
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Something tells me none of them will speak, either to not reveal their feelings, or they've been told not to speak to press.
they did speak, not about much, but at least she got their attention
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:35 pm to GEAUXmedic
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they did speak
From what I could tell one guy just asked for her press pass then they left.
Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 2m
@o_tiahnybok: says that while Yanukovitch is offering better terms he is still not to be trusted, reminding past words not matching actions
Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 1m
@o_tiahnybok: need to see concrete actions, and mentioned continuing provocations from the regime
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:38 pm to GEAUXmedic
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the ukrainian house is where they were planning the surprise attack... see how it was behind them..
Yea, about 2-3 hours ago they showed the Ukrainian house for about 20 minutes. They were filling new bags with snow and making barricades on the roadways around the Ukrainian houses
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:41 pm to LSUnation78
Reddit has up what is allegedly interviews with police, by a photojournalist
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LINK:
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"I got hit by rocks a few times, flew straight at my head. You don't feel anything with a helmet. We're usually far from the front lines and stuff rarely reaches us. Three days ago, however, they threw cocktails and we were very close. Several guys got burns. But we get extinguished quickly. That's when it gets scary very fast, a lot of guys were crying."
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"I don't get it, why are they throwing all that stuff at us? We're ordinary soldiers. There's a lot of guys here from the draft of autumn 2013. They're around 18, and half a year ago they went to the movies together with those students who want to kill them now. Why? Because of the politicians? They ask us "come over to the side of the people". Which side is the side of the people? I have relatives in Crimea who are scared that Russia will force visas on them if the Maidan wins. My friend is a taxi driver, he actually hates all those protesters, since you cannot get anywhere, massive traffic jams. Which side is the side of the people? Where should we go? We swore, and we protect the government buildings so they are not occupied. We're not politicians."
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"We're standing okay! Shifts change regularly, we're being fed better than in barracks. I read somewhere that Berkut operatives are paid extra and even given apartments or something. It's not true, at least nobody here has heard of anything like it. Maybe the commanders were promised something, but the simple footsoldiers definitely aren't getting anything. My friend got hit on the first day. A cocktail hit him right on the head, he took off his helmet and his head lit on fire. Serious burns, he lost his eyesight. But he's got a family, he's the sole breadwinner. He can't serve anymore. We collected money to help him. The media paints them as heroes, as fighters for some kind of ideas, but they look a lot like ordinary bandits to me. In another country they would quickly be dispersed, but we're not allowed. No orders. That's the most insulting part. A man who raises his hand against a police officer is a criminal. Something is flying at us all the time. First days were scary, but then we got used to it. The only problem is the constant smoke. We tried, with the help of clergymen, to convince them to stop burning all that rubber, but no success so far..."
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"They call themselves the people? What kind of people is this? Look at them. They have occupied and demolished downtown, they burn vehicles and cripple people. We had almost 100 people in hospitals over the course of a week. I have a wife and kids, and I'm here for them. I'm not interested in politics. Ordinary people like us will not live better if the Maidan wins. We had Yushchenko, and what. They stole then, they steal now and they will keep on stealing. Oligarchs are playing their games there, but we're dying for them here. I stand here for my children. But those over there are criminals. If we had orders, we would disperse them all in a couple of hours."
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:42 pm to LSUnation78
I've watched so much of this that I feel like I'm part of the damn revolution. I'm committed now though so I can't stop.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:44 pm to Macphisto
Yea, I don't believe any of those quotes.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:46 pm to Macphisto
that article, if true, makes me look at this differently...
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:46 pm to Cobrasize
quote:Like I said, allegedly. Edit: These are supposedly quotes from police, not Berkut, which are not authorized to speak.
Yea, I don't believe any of those quotes.
Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 1m
@Yatsenyuk_AP says that they are not afraid to take responsibility, to lead the country into Europe, which involves freeing #Tymoshenko
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:47 pm to Cobrasize
What's not to believe? I doubt those common soldiers have any real desire to be there other than supporting their families. It sucks. But then again this is just what accompanies a revolution.
Obviously they probably have a skewed view on the protesters and vice versa on the bekrut but that's why I like posts like that. Helps you see the middle ground.
Obviously they probably have a skewed view on the protesters and vice versa on the bekrut but that's why I like posts like that. Helps you see the middle ground.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:49 pm to Cobrasize
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I've watched so much of this that I feel like I'm part of the damn revolution. I'm committed now though so I can't stop.
me too brother, I'm ALL in for the opposition !!
I nominate Geaux as our voice of reason and mediator
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:50 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 32s
@Yatsenyuk_AP finished by saying that Tuesday will be the judgement day, words are empty only actions are meaningful, VR is to meet this Tue
@Yatsenyuk_AP finished by saying that Tuesday will be the judgement day, words are empty only actions are meaningful, VR is to meet this Tue
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:51 pm to Got Blaze
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I nominate Geaux as our voice of reason and mediator
just got off the phone with klitschko.. he said frick you, vive la revolution.. not sure why he's speaking french
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:53 pm to GEAUXmedic
I vote that we take the Ukraine and give California to Russia.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:54 pm to Cobrasize
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I vote that we take the Ukraine and give California to Russia.
Let's start low and offer them NJ
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:54 pm to Cobrasize
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I vote that we take the Ukraine and give California to Russia.
seconded... all in favor?
lets throw alabama in there too..
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:57 pm to GEAUXmedic
Those Ukraine people seem pretty cool. They burn the hell out of tires and they were handing out free bologna sammiches earlier. Works for me
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