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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:14 pm to
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here it is, klitschko is up

she's translating it here nadia is back

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This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:15 pm to
Klitschko speaking live on espreso
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:17 pm to
Boom.. they declined the offer!
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Boom.. they declined the offer!

Are you reading that somewhere, or just the tenor of the speech


Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 36s
Klitschko stated that they still demand early elections as well as abolition of draconian laws passed on 16th of January |PRNEWS #euromaidan


Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 1m
Announced that Yanukovitch is accepting freeing captured demonstrators, removal of Government with conditions
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:19 pm to
@EuromaidanPR 1m

Announced that Yanukovitch is accepting freeing captured demonstrators, removal of Government with conditions

quote:

Are you reading that somewhere, or just the tenor of the speech?


someone translated
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:20 pm to
@EuromaidanPR 1m

Klitschko stated that they still demand early elections as well as abolition of draconian laws passed on 16th of January |PRNEWS #euromaidan
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:21 pm to
Guy speaking:

Petro Oleksiyovych Poroshenko (born 26 September 1965) is a Ukrainian businessman and politician (former Minister for Foreign Affair and Minister of Trade and Economic Development of Ukraine) sometimes cited as one of the most influential people in Ukrainian politics.

From February 2007 till March 2012 Poroshenko headed the Council of Ukraine's National Bank.

Swedish economist and one-time Ukraine national government advisor Anders Åslund has described Poroshenko as an "uncommonly courageous" man willing to challenge the Yanukovych family's near-stranglehold on Ukrainian economic power and support the pro-EU protest movement.

ETA: Now Tyahnybok is up
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:22 pm to
LINK

Nadia is going talk with Berkut
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Nadia is going talk with Berkut

Cool, you can hear the speech echoing from the Maidan

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@o_tiahnybok on the stage, starts with asking for a hand for football fans from central and western clubs supporting #euromaidan |PR NEWS
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:32 pm to
Something tells me none of them will speak, either to not reveal their feelings, or they've been told not to speak to press.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:34 pm to
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Something tells me none of them will speak, either to not reveal their feelings, or they've been told not to speak to press.


they did speak, not about much, but at least she got their attention
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:35 pm to
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they did speak



From what I could tell one guy just asked for her press pass then they left.


Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 2m
@o_tiahnybok: says that while Yanukovitch is offering better terms he is still not to be trusted, reminding past words not matching actions

Euromaidan PR ?@EuromaidanPR 1m
@o_tiahnybok: need to see concrete actions, and mentioned continuing provocations from the regime
Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:38 pm to
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the ukrainian house is where they were planning the surprise attack... see how it was behind them..


Yea, about 2-3 hours ago they showed the Ukrainian house for about 20 minutes. They were filling new bags with snow and making barricades on the roadways around the Ukrainian houses
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:41 pm to
Reddit has up what is allegedly interviews with police, by a photojournalist

LINK:

quote:

"I got hit by rocks a few times, flew straight at my head. You don't feel anything with a helmet. We're usually far from the front lines and stuff rarely reaches us. Three days ago, however, they threw cocktails and we were very close. Several guys got burns. But we get extinguished quickly. That's when it gets scary very fast, a lot of guys were crying."



quote:

"I don't get it, why are they throwing all that stuff at us? We're ordinary soldiers. There's a lot of guys here from the draft of autumn 2013. They're around 18, and half a year ago they went to the movies together with those students who want to kill them now. Why? Because of the politicians? They ask us "come over to the side of the people". Which side is the side of the people? I have relatives in Crimea who are scared that Russia will force visas on them if the Maidan wins. My friend is a taxi driver, he actually hates all those protesters, since you cannot get anywhere, massive traffic jams. Which side is the side of the people? Where should we go? We swore, and we protect the government buildings so they are not occupied. We're not politicians."



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"We're standing okay! Shifts change regularly, we're being fed better than in barracks. I read somewhere that Berkut operatives are paid extra and even given apartments or something. It's not true, at least nobody here has heard of anything like it. Maybe the commanders were promised something, but the simple footsoldiers definitely aren't getting anything. My friend got hit on the first day. A cocktail hit him right on the head, he took off his helmet and his head lit on fire. Serious burns, he lost his eyesight. But he's got a family, he's the sole breadwinner. He can't serve anymore. We collected money to help him. The media paints them as heroes, as fighters for some kind of ideas, but they look a lot like ordinary bandits to me. In another country they would quickly be dispersed, but we're not allowed. No orders. That's the most insulting part. A man who raises his hand against a police officer is a criminal. Something is flying at us all the time. First days were scary, but then we got used to it. The only problem is the constant smoke. We tried, with the help of clergymen, to convince them to stop burning all that rubber, but no success so far..."



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"They call themselves the people? What kind of people is this? Look at them. They have occupied and demolished downtown, they burn vehicles and cripple people. We had almost 100 people in hospitals over the course of a week. I have a wife and kids, and I'm here for them. I'm not interested in politics. Ordinary people like us will not live better if the Maidan wins. We had Yushchenko, and what. They stole then, they steal now and they will keep on stealing. Oligarchs are playing their games there, but we're dying for them here. I stand here for my children. But those over there are criminals. If we had orders, we would disperse them all in a couple of hours."

This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:42 pm to
I've watched so much of this that I feel like I'm part of the damn revolution. I'm committed now though so I can't stop.
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:44 pm to
Yea, I don't believe any of those quotes.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:46 pm to
that article, if true, makes me look at this differently...
Posted by Macphisto
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:46 pm to
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Yea, I don't believe any of those quotes.

Like I said, allegedly. Edit: These are supposedly quotes from police, not Berkut, which are not authorized to speak.

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@Yatsenyuk_AP says that they are not afraid to take responsibility, to lead the country into Europe, which involves freeing #Tymoshenko
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:47 pm to
What's not to believe? I doubt those common soldiers have any real desire to be there other than supporting their families. It sucks. But then again this is just what accompanies a revolution.

Obviously they probably have a skewed view on the protesters and vice versa on the bekrut but that's why I like posts like that. Helps you see the middle ground.
Posted by Got Blaze
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 2:49 pm to
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I've watched so much of this that I feel like I'm part of the damn revolution. I'm committed now though so I can't stop.


me too brother, I'm ALL in for the opposition !!

I nominate Geaux as our voice of reason and mediator
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