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re: To Operate or not to Operate (on my dog)
Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:53 pm to seanerin
Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:53 pm to seanerin
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To Operate or not to Operate (on my dog)
Its hard to give you any advice without seeing the dog but your veterinarian hasnt recommended anything off the wall to me.
Some questions i would have is h ow active and healthy is your dog otherwise, are they running any bloodwork before anesthesia, where are the masses now and what size, how bad is your dogs teeth.
FNAs are very rarely diagnostic so a biopsy is needed. that will need anesthesia itself, so if they are going to do anesthesia for a biopsy, and the mass is easily removable, then just remove the mass.
The dental is a very minor procedure that adds a minimal amount of time to anesthesia. People greatly underestimate how much dental issues an animal can have and how much it causes a decline in general health if not taken care of. what you should go over with your vet if you decide to do that as an addition (and that's up to you to decide) is what they will plan to do if they find compromised teeth.
no vet guarantees anesthesia is 100% safe. all anesthesia comes with some level of risk. in healthy patients, it is very very low, but never 0. Some animals (an people) despite being perfectly healthy, respond poorly the anesthetic agents.
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Posted on 8/20/23 at 4:58 pm to seanerin
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Thoughts on my doctor wanting to do the dental at the same time?
Dental is a good idea.
But I wonder why they are bringing up dental when they think there may be cancer.
Around the mammary can make it a little concerning. Is it on its side? Far enough up to be under the hair? Lipomas can be anywhere.
I’d get a fresh set of eyes from an experienced vet. But if you can squeeze them a little and there is no distress, id be encouraged, but still would want a fresh set of eyes.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 5:00 pm to seanerin
When my pug was 13 (almost 14)I found a mass like growth in his groin the size of a gum ball. They did a needle aspiration which didn’t tell them that much about it. It soon ruptured after that. My pug was due to get his annual teeth cleaning done so I had them remove the growth while he was under for the cleaning. The vet says he got clean margins and thinks he got all of the mass out. It was sent to a lab and the growth was cancerous and would have killed him had we not removed it.
He just turned 16 and no more masses have returned. Instead of paying $$$$ for the surgery I paid a lot less since they did it with his dental cleaning (huge cost is the anesthesia and labs prior, etc). Annual dental cleanings are included in my pet plan.
At that age I wasn’t gonna do expensive chemo or radiation to try and save his life. But was thankful and grateful that surgery (that cost me $600) was able to save him.
He just turned 16 and no more masses have returned. Instead of paying $$$$ for the surgery I paid a lot less since they did it with his dental cleaning (huge cost is the anesthesia and labs prior, etc). Annual dental cleanings are included in my pet plan.
At that age I wasn’t gonna do expensive chemo or radiation to try and save his life. But was thankful and grateful that surgery (that cost me $600) was able to save him.
This post was edited on 8/20/23 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 8/20/23 at 6:07 pm to seanerin
My husky mix died at 15. She had lumps all over her chest for 4 years before she died. That's all I got.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 6:15 pm to MBclass83
If she thinks the lumps were lipomas, she likely would have just aspirated to confirm. If the lumps are in the mammary tissue and more firm, then the cytology from FNA really doesn't do much as even benign cysts can become cancerous over time, esp if dog is not spayed, and if they are cancer, sticking them can just tick them off and make them worse more rapidly. Mammary gland carcinoma is a very aggressive cancer, so if it is this, then even doing radical mastectomy is usually not enough on its own as the cancer is usually already in lymph system when it is found. 12y is not really ancient for a smaller breed, especially if otherwise healthy. Dental prophies can be long procedures on their own, especially if teeth are bad and several extractions are likely, but if she is just doing a lumpectomy to get the biopsy and thinks the teeth just need a good cleaning, then both can be done in 1-2 hours.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 6:15 pm to seanerin
I wouldn't pay for surgery on any pet
Posted on 8/20/23 at 6:26 pm to greenbean
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This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/20/23 at 7:09 pm to seanerin
Call the Vet and tell them “operate for half of what you quoted or kill the dog”
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