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re: Things are heating up again in Korea (UPDATE IN OP: US Mobilizes 2nd ID)

Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:15 pm to
Obama needs to sign a peace treaty immediately with North Korea and abandoned the Japanese.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:16 pm to
For those wondering what's different this time:

LINK

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So what's different this time?

Partly, it's North Korea's apparent willingness to back up an earlier vow to attack the anti-Pyongyang loudspeakers and also on the specificity of its Saturday deadline.

There was surprise when South Korea's military reported Thursday that North Korea had fired across the border, and was then met by dozens of shells from the South. If the North attacked once, some argue, it may be more likely to back up its newest threat, especially if a very specific deadline is being ignored, as Seoul has indicated it will do.



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While earlier North Korean leaders - the founder, Kim Il Sung, and his son Kim Jong Il - were seen as masters of brinksmanship, men who knew how to play a dangerous game where threats and provocations were pushed to a straining point, but not to breaking, to extract concessions and aid, Kim Jong Un is seen as lacking the same savvy, experience and, after a series of bloody, high-level government and military purges, the necessary good counsel.



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There has been bloodshed in skirmishes in recent decades but the fighting has not escalated. The risk of things getting out of hand seems greater now because South Korea, in the wake of a humiliating exchange in 2010, when a surprise North Korean artillery attack killed four, has instructed its military to hit back much harder if attacked.

Even so, and granting the important caveat that predicting North Korea's behavior in advance is largely a fool's errand, there are still some important signs that tensions may ease.

For the most part, North Korea's authoritarian leadership, while seen by many outsiders as unpredictable, is overwhelmingly consistent on one major point: The Kim family's rule must be protected.

While proud and incredibly sensitive to perceived slights from the outside, and therefore furious over the criticism being piped across the border on the South Korean loudspeakers, Pyongyang is reluctant to do anything to jeopardize the all-powerful position the Kims have enjoyed since founding the country in 1948.

Insults must be answered, of course, in over-the top state media propaganda and in declarations from troops and citizens showcasing a willingness to crush the enemy. But this is largely for the benefit of a domestic audience that cannot be allowed to see Kim Jong Un in anything but a heroic light.

Pushing things to a full military conflict is seen as suicide. The United States stations tens of thousands of troops in South Korea, and both Seoul and Washington far outclass Pyongyang in their weapons' technology and effectiveness. North Korea could do serious damage to Seoul - even rusty artillery, when plentiful and close-by, can be deadly - but a war would eventually destroy the Kim family.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:24 pm to
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GEAUXmedic

Thanks for your updates. I've been searching and reading sites like ROKdrop and I'm getting my best info from TD, per usual.
Posted by stinkdawg
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:36 pm to
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Obama needs to sign a peace treaty immediately with North Korea and abandoned the Japanese

Absolutely! That's his style, which is to alienate allies. I've been waiting for him to bomb England, S.K. and Canada.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:19 am to
Wowww

North Korea positions its artillery inside DMZ


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North Korea has set up its artillery inside the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) in its efforts to stop South Korea's broadcasts against the North.

The North reportedly brought 76.2-millimeter artillery guns into the DMZ and positioned more military units behind the DMZ on Saturday, according to Yonhap News Agency. The guns are supposedly the same weapons the North recently used in its preemptive strikes at the South's western border regions in Thursday afternoon.

The North's regrouping of the artillery inside the DMZ is a clear violation of the armistice and their non-aggression agreement, the source said. The North has been keeping the weapons outside the DMZ until now.

The South has been monitoring the North's movement of its military units as the North demanded the South stop the psyop propaganda using loudspeakers before 5:00 p.m. Saturday, Aug. 22.


LINK

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Death-defying Battle Awaits Us

The emergency enlarged meeting of the WPK Central Military Commission discussed political and military countermeasures to foil the enemy’s war moves.

The meeting examined and ratified the KPA Front Command’s offensive operational plan, which is designed to launch an immediate counterstrike and counteroffensive across the front in emergency.

A death-defying battle awaits us.

We, young people, will go out to the front and open a new era of peace and reunification by crushing at a blow the south Korean puppet warmongers who are filled with a wild ambition of north-targeted preemptive strike.

Kang Hyok Chol,
Vice-chairman of Sosong District Committee
of Pyongyang Municipality
of Kim Il Sung Socialist Youth League

This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 12:25 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:22 am to
Ok, now this shite just might spiral out of control. This is a worrisome development.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:24 am to
So, is 1 AM Pacific kick-off time?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:27 am to
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So, is 1 AM Pacific kick-off time?



Either 1 am or 1:30 am pacific, cause they said 5:00 is the deadline, but north korea is 30 minutes off from south korea.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:29 am to
Are you personally expecting anything to come out of it?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:31 am to
50/50
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:32 am to
Like there could be a full-on military escalation by both sides?

Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
38338 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:36 am to
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50/50

Are they evacuating dependents yet (sorry if this has already been asked)? I did time in 2ID in Area 1 and I know this shite has to be pretty terrifying for anyone on a command sponsored tour.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:36 am to
The only evacuations I know of are of communities near the DMZ in South Korea.

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Fears of a military clash sent more than 3,700 residents near the border with North Korea scurrying for shelters. The evacuation is set to finish by 4 p.m., one hour before the North's deadline.
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 12:42 am
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:38 am to
I hope not, but they are crazy.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:04 am to
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@YonhapNews 3m3 minutes ago
(URGENT) Two Koreas to hold high-level talks at border village of Panmunjom: Cheong Wa Dae


Apparently North Korea asked South Korea to talk.
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 1:11 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
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38338 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:09 am to
Sounds like yet another ploy for food. We'll probably give it to them.
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:13 am to
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Apparently North Korea asked South Korea to talk.


losers
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:14 am to
Per SBS in South Korea, North Korea asked to talk at 6PM korea time.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:16 am to
Guess the show of force worked

(Hopefully)

Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:19 am to
Guess NK just got "Family Matters"





This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 1:21 am
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