re: The Tesla Model Y was the best selling vehicle overall in California in June

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So nothing to back it up but your own feelings and opinions?

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Correct. Nothing but my feelings and opinions. Other than having read through several dozen articles, industry “research papers,” and actual research papers, and being part of the project to develop an internal extensive technical analysis on it to determine the cost/benefit of switching a fleet of vehicles from ICE to EV.

Sorry there is no MSNBC article I can link you to so you can quibble over the details. Because if you think the “news” gets anything right, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

The final outcome of the project was to switch the fleet to EV, by the way, because the tax credits were too good to resist. The findings about the fact that the current fleet of base ICE vehicles was less environmentally friendly than the EVs over their entire lifetime was glossed over. The ultimate result was a disaster because, as was outlined in the internal report, EVs aren’t ready for extended hard work in extreme environments yet.

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I’ve forgotten more about these tax credits than you will ever know.

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Not possible.

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I don't remember ever being subjected to a non-disaster-related blackout in my lifetime.

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Me neither.

Constant and reliable power from the Browns Ferry Nuke plant for as long as I can remember.

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Correct. Nothing but my feelings and opinions. Other than having read through several dozen articles, industry “research papers,” and actual research papers, and being part of the project to develop an internal extensive technical analysis on it to determine the cost/benefit of switching a fleet of vehicles from ICE to EV. Sorry there is no MSNBC article I can link you to so you can quibble over the details. Because if you think the “news” gets anything right, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. The final outcome of the project was to switch the fleet to EV, by the way, because the tax credits were too good to resist. The findings about the fact that the current fleet of base ICE vehicles was less environmentally friendly than the EVs over their entire lifetime was glossed over. The ultimate result was a disaster because, as was outlined in the internal report, EVs aren’t ready for extended hard work in extreme environments yet.

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Got it. You can stick with that and I’ll trust my IE reports from DNV and B&V. Cool.

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What would you like to do a deep dive on? The original ones, IRA specific, ITC/PTC,AMPTC? I’m always happy to have a real conversation here with someone who knows what they’re talking about and doesn’t just post shite they saw on Facebook.

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If you really knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have purchased an EV while there were no tax credits.

Too small for my liking. No way I can fit my Yeti and clubs in there...

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You mind listing the exaggerative points I have been making?

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The part where you used a planned roadtrip, which is a rare and high consumption event while also ignoring that all you have to do is log into the app and tell it not to export and max charge.

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The part where you used a planned roadtrip, which is a rare and high consumption event

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What? A rare and high consumption event? You know San Francisco and other cities in CA have such long commutes to work they have set up a Commuter Benefits Program don’t you?

Anything else exaggerated?

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while also ignoring that all you have to do is log into the app and tell it not to export and max charge.

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Which everyone will assuredly remember to do each and every single time. And most definitely will not just decide to say “f__k it, I’ll leave it off” because they are prone to forget.

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Every Tesla sold is getting up to a $7500 federal tax credit

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And it also takes 1+ hour every time you charge at a supercharger, and you will have to change your battery every 5 years and it'll cost $40k, amirite?

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And it also takes 1+ hour every time you charge at a supercharger, and you will have to change your battery every 5 years and it'll cost $40k, amirite?

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It's a typical EV thread.

I wish i had a time machine and could go back and watch these same people melt about cell phones and clutching to their land lines crying about what happens if they forget to charge their phone and how impossible it would be to build out a cellular network.