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re: Tesla to introduce car without steering wheel within 2 years

Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:06 pm to
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At this rate by tomorrow they will just be cool.

Now get back to the jetsons.



You're trying wayyyyy too hard in here.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:09 pm to
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The worldwide hacking syndicate is foaming at the mouth in anticipation of this made for TV disaster.
Like all those airplanes that get hacked into all the time?


This is not remotely a reason to not advance this technology.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:21 pm to
This is all so useless - Elon can eat a dick.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:32 pm to
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Elon can eat a dick.
This is weird.
Posted by Port Royal
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:47 pm to
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Elon can eat a dick.


I would settle for Elon paying back the 3.5 billion in subsidies he gets from You and I.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:51 pm to
Stop, Elon is king and cars that cook you breakfast are the future.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:21 am to
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I would settle for Elon paying back the 3.5 billion in subsidies he gets from You and I.
That's not how this works.

I love how people act like these were ONLY available for Elon/Tesla to take. Any company can use those subsidies.

Do you ever talk about all the other major automotive companies and how you want them to pay back all the subsidies they've taken? I'm guessing not, why is that?


This thread surprisingly stayed on track pretty well all day yesterday, but we've hit that mark where guys are just repeating things they've seen on the internet...just cause.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 8:22 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:23 am to
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Stop, Elon is king and cars that cook you breakfast are the future.
You're very oddly upset about Elon or Tesla discussions.

That's strange.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
52854 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:24 am to
I wonder what happens if I over correct and your autopilot tosses you in the ditch? I didn't hit you

This technology is 30 years away from becoming mainstream
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:27 am to
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I wonder what happens if I over correct and your autopilot tosses you in the ditch? I didn't hit you
How's that any different than if you over correct and I manually swerve and end up in a ditch?

The main thing is the technology is already there now to be able to avoid your over correct without landing in a ditch better than the average human can. And again, that's just right now, now imagine how good it will be in 30 years?

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This technology is 30 years away from becoming mainstream
Probably. That's not really a knock on the technology though. Just rather, people in masses aren't exactly jumping at the chance to toss aside something they've used and known their entire lives for something they know very little about.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:30 am to
Insurance, DUI laws, accidents/court cases. I don't think this will be mainstream while I'm still driving and I'm 41. I'd absolutely drop my wife in one. She's a shitty driver and the bots could do better.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:35 am to
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I'd absolutely drop my wife in one. She's a shitty driver and the bots could do better.
Right

Like I said, now imagine this technology has 30 years of data to go off of for improvements. Any of your kids/grandkids 30 years from now, I'm guessing we'll all want them in these cars simply because at that time they will be worlds better than the average human driver, and I'm not sure how any of us would want our loved ones in anything but one years down the line IMO.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:37 am to
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How's that any different than if you over correct and I manually swerve and end up in a ditch? 

I don't think that I overcorrected enough to be at fault. Your computer did and a human wouldn't have reacted as severely. See how many grey areas this creates?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:52 am to
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I don't think that I overcorrected enough to be at fault. Your computer did and a human wouldn't have reacted as severely. See how many grey areas this creates?
But it feels like you're making up a scenario that the AI will frick it up worse than the human driver. That's really just not the case.

As I mentioned, the autopilot would very likely react in a safer manner than the average human drive right now, today.

So the reality of your scenario is the human driver is more likely to end up in the ditch than when the car is on autopilot. That doesn't mean the AI driver is perfect and to your example, it doesn't mean the AI driver will 100% of the time always be better and never end up in that ditch. But on average, it will do a better job than the human.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 8:54 am
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:41 am to
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he gets from You and me.


Posted by Janky
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:45 am to
Well, Tesla reports this afternoon. I am sure it will be record profits and announcing how far ahead of schedule they are in production. There will be no need for a cash call in the future. All is well on the home front.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:15 am to
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I am sure it will be record profits and announcing how far ahead of schedule they are in production. There will be no need for a cash call in the future
Probably the opposite actually.

Your pretty clear bias against Tesla is pretty strange.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:17 am to
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Hell, they just dripped Nvidia as their micro-chip provider and are claiming they invented a chip that is now better than anything else anyone has ever created. Have fun being a live debugger for them.
They just dropped Nvidia, and yet Nvidia put out a statement lauding Tesla's new chip and how great it is.

Nvidia is very impressed, even stating Tesla has set the bar and leapfrogged the industry, but you aren't impressed? That's a bit confusing.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:32 am
Posted by EA6B
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 4:18 pm to
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So the reality of your scenario is the human driver is more likely to end up in the ditch than when the car is on autopilot. That doesn't mean the AI driver is perfect and to your example, it doesn't mean the AI driver will 100% of the time always be better and never end up in that ditch. But on average, it will do a better job than the human.



It may not be exactly applicable to your specific situation, but another big advantage of AI and driverless cars over a human driver is AI in conjunction with the cars senors are able able to "see" 360 degrees around the car simultaneously, and use that information to react to a bad situation before a human driver would be aware of it.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 4:41 pm to
Earnings were shite. Even more shitty than expected.
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