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re: Terrorist attack in France. Another lonewolf murders senior police couple

Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Tigers_Saints
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:48 am to
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Absolutely. He downplays it to make it seem like this isn't Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. He's afraid to call it what it is. Say terrorism, don't say an act of terror. That's the same way he describes anything else. Weak.





Guess what, from his statement:

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The FBI is appropriately investigating this as an act of terrorism. And I’ve directed that we must spare no effort to determine what -- if any -- inspiration or association this killer may have had with terrorist groups. What is clear is that he was a person filled with hatred. Over the coming days, we’ll uncover why and how this happened, and we will go wherever the facts lead us.


There is plenty to be critical of Obama for, but this is retarded.

This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 9:52 am
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:51 am to
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He downplays it to make it seem like this isn't Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. He's afraid to call it what it is. Say terrorism, don't say an act of terror.



I've seen people go to some crazy lengths to bash Obama, but this one just might take the cake.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:53 am to
Euros are losing it

Wasnt there a German girl raped by Muslim refugee and she posted something on her facebook basically apologizing to her rapist for what white culture had done to him to make him want to rape her?
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:53 am to
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Absolutely. He downplays it to make it seem like this isn't Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. He's afraid to call it what it is. Say terrorism, don't say an act of terror. That's the same way he describes anything else. Weak.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40148 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:54 am to
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Wasnt there a German girl raped by Muslim refugee and she posted something on her facebook basically apologizing to her rapist for what white culture had done to him to make him want to rape her?


I dunno, I don't read Drudge or Bretibart.
Posted by RedRifle
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:54 am to
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I've seen people go to some crazy lengths to bash Obama, but this one just might take the cake.


Obama seems like a good guy. A nice man. A man who loves America and is hard working. However, he is of the cultural view, like many in the far left, that we should tip toe around everyone. We should never engage head on, and that aything that might feel slightly offensive must be avoided. This is fine in your country club, but in the real world when we are dealing with people who just want to kill us and our kids, that's not okay.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:55 am to
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However, he is of the cultural view, like many in the far left, that we should tip toe around everyone. We should never engage head on, and that aything that might feel slightly offensive must be avoided. This is fine in your country club, but in the real world when we are dealing with people who just want to kill us and our kids, that's not okay.


He literally called it an act of terror and terrorism. I honestly don't know what you want.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:56 am to
By engage them head on. What exactly do you mean?
Posted by RedRifle
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:57 am to
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He literally called it an act of terror and terrorism. I honestly don't know what you want.



Will he ever call it Islamic fundamentalist terrorism? WIll he admit we're at war with ISIS?

The ironic thing about all of this, is that ISIS and fundamentalists hate what liberals love i.e. a secular society.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 9:58 am to
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determine what -- if any -- inspiration or association this killer may have had with terrorist groups.



Yeah but this was after it was already revealed that he had been radicalized by Islamic terror groups
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:02 am to
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Paris mayor praised the attack.

Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40148 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:02 am to
Pretty clear you just want something to complain about. Carry on.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:03 am to
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The ironic thing about all of this, is that ISIS and fundamentalists hate what liberals love i.e. a secular society.


Also, WTF is this about? Maybe I'm just missing the irony.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:04 am to
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WIll he admit we're at war with ISIS?


I didn't realize that Obama was Congress

You really can't admit you were wrong?

Furthermore, from the last shooting:

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Well, here's what I want you to know: The threat from terrorism is real, but we will overcome it. We will destroy ISIL and any other organization that tries to harm us. Our success won't depend on tough talk, or abandoning our values, or giving into fear. That's what groups like ISIL are hoping for. Instead, we will prevail by being strong and smart, resilient and relentless, and by drawing upon every aspect of American power.


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Finally, if Congress believes, as I do, that we are at war with ISIL, it should go ahead and vote to authorize the continued use of military force against these terrorists. For over a year, I have ordered our military to take thousands of airstrikes against ISIL targets. I think it's time for Congress to vote to demonstrate that the American people are united, and committed, to this fight.


LINK

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The ironic thing about all of this, is that ISIS and fundamentalists hate what liberals love i.e. a secular society.



Also from Obama's statement:

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In the coming hours and days, we’ll learn about the victims of this tragedy. Their names. Their faces. Who they were. The joy that they brought to families and to friends, and the difference that they made in this world. Say a prayer for them and say a prayer for their families -- that God give them the strength to bear the unbearable. And that He give us all the strength to be there for them, and the strength and courage to change. We need to demonstrate that we are defined more -- as a country -- by the way they lived their lives than by the hate of the man who took them from us.


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May God bless the Americans we lost this morning. May He comfort their families. May God continue to watch over this country that we love. Thank you.


Sure seems secular.

Are you serious with this crap?
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:05 am to
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Yeah but this was after it was already revealed that he had been radicalized by Islamic terror groups



This was put out Sunday at around 1. Really just looking for something to bitch about

There is really nothing wrong with the statement he puts out. It is sympathetic while condemning the actions and any attack on Americans.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 10:07 am
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
40148 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:05 am to
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Sure seems secular.

Are you serious with this crap?


People have already made up their minds that Obama is a godless Manchurian President. Things like his own words and actions won't change that.
Posted by Tigers_Saints
Member since Jun 2016
949 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:18 am to
Some more from that speech:

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That does not mean denying the fact that an extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. This is a real problem that Muslims must confront, without excuse. Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to continue working with us to decisively and unequivocally reject the hateful ideology that groups like ISIL and al Qaeda promote; to speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity.


It really is a good speech. And for RedRifle:

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Our nation has been at war with terrorists since al Qaeda killed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11. In the process, we've hardened our defenses -- from airports to financial centers, to other critical infrastructure. Intelligence and law enforcement agencies have disrupted countless plots here and overseas, and worked around the clock to keep us safe. Our military and counterterrorism professionals have relentlessly pursued terrorist networks overseas -- disrupting safe havens in several different countries, killing Osama bin Laden, and decimating al Qaeda's leadership.

Over the last few years, however, the terrorist threat has evolved into a new phase. As we've become better at preventing complex, multifaceted attacks like 9/11, terrorists turned to less complicated acts of violence like the mass shootings that are all too common in our society. It is this type of attack that we saw at Fort Hood in 2009; in Chattanooga earlier this year; and now in San Bernardino. And as groups like ISIL grew stronger amidst the chaos of war in Iraq and then Syria, and as the Internet erases the distance between countries, we see growing efforts by terrorists to poison the minds of people like the Boston Marathon bombers and the San Bernardino killers.



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Finally, if Congress believes, as I do, that we are at war with ISIL, it should go ahead and vote to authorize the continued use of military force against these terrorists. For over a year, I have ordered our military to take thousands of airstrikes against ISIL targets. I think it's time for Congress to vote to demonstrate that the American people are united, and committed, to this fight.


This narrative is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 10:19 am
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