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Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:22 pm to dillpickleLSU
My impression is project managers are the most pissy bunch of people I've ever met.
This could have been an educational thread.
This could have been an educational thread.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:25 pm to Cajun Revolution
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My impression is project managers are the most pissy bunch of people I've ever met. This could have been an educational thread.
An educational thread on the OT.... Come on man, you can't be serious....
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:27 pm to Cajun Revolution
I take offense to that...I was a PM for 7 years
I have a younger guy (30ish) at my work who has a PMP, working as a "senior scheduler". Dude sucks balls. He's way behind all the scheduler and cost guys. If you looked at his linkedin profile you'd think he was the lead project controls for Lockheed Martin. He doesn't do a smidgen of what his resume says
I have a younger guy (30ish) at my work who has a PMP, working as a "senior scheduler". Dude sucks balls. He's way behind all the scheduler and cost guys. If you looked at his linkedin profile you'd think he was the lead project controls for Lockheed Martin. He doesn't do a smidgen of what his resume says
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:28 pm to aaronb023
We're only pissy when we have to deal with ignorant little shits.... 
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:29 pm to aaronb023
Awesome......proves my point
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:36 pm to aaronb023
The PMP will quit mattering when companies stop placing value on it. I don't know what else to tell you.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:40 pm to dillpickleLSU
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Awesome......proves my point
Your data point is one anecdote on a message board with the word "droppings" in the URL?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:40 pm to Cajun Revolution
I'll be getting my PMP eventually bc my company wants me to. I'm in IT project mgmt. They pay for it and then it lets them pay me more for having it. I don't see any problems with it
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:43 pm to Cajun Revolution
PMP doesn't mean shite in construction. It's good in engineering or IT where you have someone who graduated in something technical. It seems like it is more of a prerequisite in IT project management from what I've seen
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:45 pm to aaronb023
IT is what I have to deal with a ton of. It will be helpful.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:51 pm to Cajun Revolution
You don't work with hospitals by any chance?
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:55 pm to Cajun Revolution
PMP is a cancer in IT right now. It's one of those things that starts off as a good idea but gets overvalued and oversupplied.
I was tempted to go that route but enjoying my job is paramount. I have to be deep in the code/technical side of things in order to be happy.
I was tempted to go that route but enjoying my job is paramount. I have to be deep in the code/technical side of things in order to be happy.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:58 pm to Epic Cajun
LOL. I deal with healthcare procurement (HIT) but nothing on a hospital level.
This post was edited on 7/28/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:04 pm to Cajun Revolution
Ah, I work in HIT/IS. Thought maybe we may have crossed paths, but not if you don't work with any hospitals. 
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:06 pm to dillpickleLSU
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You work as A but apply for B but try to get bullshite certifications that won't help you make the switch. Ok, I'm done. Sorry you are mad.
But, I aint even mad. I am not trying to get any certificates. Just pointing out that many degrees and certificates are useless. Of course, anyone trying to improve their skill/education should not be criticized. I say you get your PMP and tell anyone that has a problem with it to eat a dick.
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:38 pm to saltybulldog
We once had a client company who was complaining that their IT costs were spiraling out of control, a critical upgrade had gone sideways, and they lacked the in house expertise to fix it.
They had a CIO, 2 directors, 3 asst directors, 6 project managers, 3 supervisors, and 6 actual IT guys, 4 of which were straight out if college and had no clue what they were doing.
Each project was basically 2 guys trying to do everything and 10 people supervising them. This was for servers, virtualization, backups, application development, PC support, email, SAN, VPN, websites, networking, databases, workflow, printers, etc.
:smh:
They had a CIO, 2 directors, 3 asst directors, 6 project managers, 3 supervisors, and 6 actual IT guys, 4 of which were straight out if college and had no clue what they were doing.
Each project was basically 2 guys trying to do everything and 10 people supervising them. This was for servers, virtualization, backups, application development, PC support, email, SAN, VPN, websites, networking, databases, workflow, printers, etc.
:smh:
Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:52 pm to saltybulldog
The certification brings value to Procurement. Some of the PM skills can really be applied to long term strategic planning. It's rare you see a Procurement Officer knowing how or willing to bring a project from development through implementation.
Procurement has traditionally been viewed as a service function rather than an executive one. That needs to change and it not doing so, leads to inefficient expenditures.
Sure there are PMs if given a budget and resources can allocate them effectively but there aren't too many Procurement Officers that take that PM approach in the execution of programmatic initiatives in the public sector.
That's why I want a PMP cert.
Procurement has traditionally been viewed as a service function rather than an executive one. That needs to change and it not doing so, leads to inefficient expenditures.
Sure there are PMs if given a budget and resources can allocate them effectively but there aren't too many Procurement Officers that take that PM approach in the execution of programmatic initiatives in the public sector.
That's why I want a PMP cert.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:11 am to Cajun Revolution
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Procurement has traditionally been viewed as a service function rather than an executive one. That needs to change and it not doing so, leads to inefficient expenditures.
You definietly sound like you need a PMP.....
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:30 am to Cajun Revolution
Isn't PM for those folks that lack technical skill(s), but who attempt to demonstrate their value through scheduling countless numbers of unproductive conference calls and distributing spreadsheets "tasking" employees with completion of items, most of which truly have little to nothing to do with completion of the project.
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