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re: Solve this math problem

Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:42 am to
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Had one genius saying we need to worry about intent before answering a math problem.
I'm that genius, and it's not my fault you can't understand the difference between determining the intent of the OP and determining the intent of a math problem as written.

Nobody with any sense is arguing that you aren't solving the problem as written correctly. You are. Like I said, you get elementary school arithmetic, congratulations.

But getting the arithmetic right is meaningless if it doesn't solve the actual problem that needs to be solved. In this case, it was BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that OP was having trouble with the syntax (first weird spacing, then multiple division symbols). In order to SOLVE PROBLEMS, we must ASK QUESTIONS. We have to know the actual problem to be solved before solving it.

Some of us prefer to get to the root of the problem and arrive at the correct answer. Others, like you, just like to do basic arithmetic and then act like a dick.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:42 am to
I'm not the one with 500 replies in the thread and still wrong,
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:43 am to
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No, it wouldn't.

It wouldn't group at all.

However, (9-3÷1)/(3+1) at the very least would be more correct (based on historical math syntax) than 9-3÷(1/3)+1.



Listen, as I said from the start, I'm assuming someone went out of his way to use the never-used division sign on a computer keyboard to express something different than slash as both were used in the same expression. Make the precedence of / lower than the other operators, and it groups as I described. If OP is going to be cute, I'm going to be cuter.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:43 am to
How good do you think your shite smells?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:44 am to
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I'm not the one with 500 replies in the thread and still wrong,


Neither am I, so....
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:44 am to
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How good do you think your shite smells?
It usually smells pretty fricking awful.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:46 am to
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You don't get to just decide where to add parentheses to a math problem. The problem is what the problem is.


I'm not "just deciding." Go back and read the discussion.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:48 am to
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I'm not "just deciding."


You are.

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Go back and read the discussion.


Nothing you've discussed gives you power to change the problem. This isn't some advanced theoretical problem. It's simply algebra. There is the correct way to solve it, then there's whatever the hell else people choose to do. The problem as written only has one solution.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:49 am to
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Go back and read the discussion.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:49 am to
Post that as many times as you like. It will never change the outcome of the problem.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:06 pm to
Yep.

Keep fighting the good fight.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Post that as many times as you like. It will never change the outcome of the problem.


You refuse to do it, so to summarize, if you're going to write "9-3÷1/3+1" on a computer keyboard, considering that slash has a well-defined meaning, and "÷" is never used and even lacks a physical key, I'm going to assume you did it for a reason. With my interpretation, at least you can think about things like how to write a grammar to make it work. I don't care what the "right" answer is, because all these threads are beyond tedious. I just looked at the OP, and I see the graphic is actually unambiguous, but the problem has changed since I observed yesterday, "Oh look, a problem to test whether people think whitespace is significant. 1000 pages." Maybe I should've left it at that level.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:20 pm to
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You refuse to do it,


Again, I read it. I've said that multiple times. Perhaps you should follow the discussion as well.

quote:

if you're going to write "9-3÷1/3+1" on a computer keyboard, considering that slash has a well-defined meaning, and "÷" is never used and even lacks a physical key, I'm going to assume you did it for a reason. With my interpretation, at least you can think about things like how to write a grammar to make it work. I don't care what the "right" answer is, because all these threads are beyond tedious. I just looked at the OP, and I see the graphic is actually unambiguous, but the problem has changed since I observed yesterday, "Oh look, a problem to test whether people think whitespace is significant. 1000 pages." Maybe I should've left it at that level.


All of this is irrelevant. The problem as presented has one unique solution.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:20 pm to
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Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:22 pm to
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assume
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interpretation
Your use of these terms indicate that you are using your brain, which according to LNCHBOX is a no-no.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:24 pm to
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The problem as presented has one unique solution.
...and multiple irregularities which indicate that it was presented incorrectly.


And before you ask, yes, at this point I am just posting to further rustle your jimmies.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Your use of these terms indicate that you are using your brain, which according to LNCHBOX is a no-no.


For a simple algebra problem, it is a no no. There is a right way, then all the other mental gymnastics you guys are using.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:26 pm to
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and multiple irregularities




quote:

And before you ask, yes, at this point I am just posting to further rustle your jimmies.



My jimmies are unrustled by you posting nonsense. If you think making yourself look foolish is bothering me, well it's just par for the course.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:26 pm to
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There is a right way, then all the other mental gymnastics you guys are using.
Are you talking about the "mental gymnastics" that correctly determined that there was a syntax issue, and that the problem as presented was not the actual problem OP wanted solved?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:26 pm to
9-3÷1/3 +1 = troll

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