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re: Remember how people used to say "The exception that proves the rule".

Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:25 pm to
I read about this once, it may have been a blog about causality or statistics. It's not merely the observation in play, it's the context.

The rule may be that to be a CEO of a major corporation you have to have an advanced degree and spend 10 years in subordinate positions then 20 years in management, climbing the ladder along the way. This is a rule, not a law. It's a way to state the prevailing circumstances. This rule may make sense because virtually all businesses you can think of are things like Burger King or Walmart, they were established long ago, and built up gradually and require a lot of experience to integrate into the structure and become a CEO.

Then came the tech boom and people suddenly became CEO's of giant businesses without going through the process above. In aggregate, there may be a million businesses, and only 100 of them are tech giants and of those only 50 have CEO's that took unorthodox routes. This would be the exception that proves the general rule of how you get to be a CEO in a big corporation.

When you have a situation that is an exception that proves the rule, you probably need to stratify the field. Otherwise you're merely talking about low probability like the tails on a distribution.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41246 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:26 pm to

I’m glad my English degree proved helpful with something
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
3636 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

In aggregate, there may be a million businesses, and only 100 of them are tech giants and of those only 50 have CEO's that took unorthodox routes. This would be the exception that proves the general rule of how you get to be a CEO in a big corporation.


Isn’t that contradictory

Rule: a degree is needed to be a CEO
Exception: a CEO without a degree

The exception disproves the rule.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20110 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:57 pm to
You only have exceptions to rules. If there was not a rule, it wouldn't be an exception. So if something is specifically an exception there has to be a rule that makes it an exception.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20110 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

The exception disproves the rule.


If there was no rule then there is no exception.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
3636 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:06 pm to
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If there was no rule then there is no exception


So we are in agreement we’ve just proven nothing.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20110 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

So we are in agreement we’ve just proven nothing.


No. An exception proves a rule exists.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:19 pm to
I think you just disproved everything.
Posted by Tigerjulie
Houston
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:38 pm to
Originally, one meaning of "proof" or "prove" was to "test". I believe the meaning in this phrase is the the exception tests whether the rule is correct or not. Similarly, the saying "the proof of the pudding is in the eating" means that the test of whether a dish is delicious, or not, is in actually eating it, and not in reading the recipe.
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