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re: Police go to wrong address, kill homeowner in the middle of the night
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:25 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:25 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Bloomberg
You know, that sucks. If like to do my job and never make a mistake for 30 years. Unfortunately that doesn't happen. I understand my mistakes can be costly and I accept that, but to think I did something out of malice or being "dirty" really sucks
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:49 pm to FiddleHead
Don't be a complete idiot.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:55 pm to Darth_Vader
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When he goes onto an innocent man's property and kills him? No, he does not have the same rights as me at that point
So we do away with police responding to 911 calls.
911 operators will instruct callers to have their attacker to come to the police station and all requests will be handled there.
Interesting...should save taxpayers some money.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 7:58 pm to Hammertime
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They probably used a GPS instead of, you know, reading the numbers on the house
Could be possible that the houses didn't have house numbers.
Or they were outside the correct house and he encountered them there. It was the neighbors house the call came from and he was shot outside.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:05 pm to Tigers_Saints
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If I shoot a man on his own property as he's walking out of his garage and claim self-defense, do you think I'd be free to go?
Were you dispatched to said property by 911? Are you a commissioned LEO tasked with responding to calls to service?
Its apples to oranges.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:07 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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You know, that sucks. If like to do my job and never make a mistake for 30 years. Unfortunately that doesn't happen. I understand my mistakes can be costly and I accept that, but to think I did something out of malice or being "dirty" really sucks
Sounds like karma, or in financial terms, a market correction.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:08 pm to MikeBRLA
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seeing as though the police had no warrant and no legal right to be there, this was in fact a home invasion.
No they are acting in the color of the law under good faith.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:14 pm to 75503Tiger
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The victim is gone due to some form of negligence and that is sad. I doubt the justice system would allow a private citizen to skate on a scenario such as this.
This. Unfortunately we both know the courts will not give justice here because of the politics involved.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:17 pm to theenemy
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No they are acting in the color of the law under good faith.
Showing up to the wrong property without exigency or reasonable suspicion is a blatant and lethal violation of the property owners rights.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:21 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Showing up to the wrong property without exigency or reasonable suspicion
Pretty sure a 911 call is considered exigent circumstance and reasonable suspicion to coming onto the property and is covered under the color of law and good faith.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:21 pm to NYNolaguy1
How does this keep happening?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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Really sucks regardless though. I'd imagine the cop doesn't feel too good about it.
I'd bet a couple of paycheck a that the cop does not give one single solitary frick.
The number of innocent people killed by cops in this country is starting to rival the number killed by terrorists.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:28 pm to LNCHBOX
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You don't know what happened, but you somehow know he is guilty of something
Well we know the cop went to the wrong house and an innocent man is dead.
At minimun that should be criminal negligence and manslaughter.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:33 pm to theenemy
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Pretty sure a 911 call is considered exigent circumstance and reasonable suspicion to coming onto the property and is covered under the color of law and good faith.
Without an address or description of perps? Are you suggesting they had justification to enter every property in the neighborhood because of the lack of info?
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:37 pm to NoNameTiger
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How does this keep happening?
Lack of consequences, no accountability, and a general reluctance to prosecute those responsible. Tack on most people think of police as their protectors who can't do any wrong, and nothing's likely to change soon.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:39 pm to theenemy
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Pretty sure a 911 call is considered exigent circumstance and reasonable suspicion to coming onto the property and is covered under the color of law and good faith.
Even the wrong property?
I mean Jesus, local police are now outfitted like military units with the most up to date tech. How the frick can they constantly keep killing people at the wrong address.
I mean this isn't the first, second, third, fourth etc time we've seen this exact same scenario.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:03 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Are you suggesting they had justification to enter every property in the neighborhood because of the lack of info?
They have justification to go into someones yard or driveway while trying to determine what house the emergency call came from.
They didn't kick down the door and enter a house....this happened outside.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:10 pm to NoNameTiger
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Even the wrong property?
I mean Jesus, local police are now outfitted like military units with the most up to date tech. How the frick can they constantly keep killing people at the wrong address.
I understand, but this isn't the case where it was an investigation and and they served a warrant at the wrong address.
This is a 911 call relying on the caller to explain what house it is. Isn't it possible the caller screwed up the address description.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:43 pm to theenemy
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They have justification to go into someones yard or driveway while trying to determine what house the emergency call came from.
They didn't kick down the door and enter a house....this happened outside.
Neighbors reported seeing flashlights shining through the windows, and the mother in law reported hearing no identification of police outside. If they are trying to figure out where the call came from, you'd think they would want to make as much noise and lights as possible, not running a stealth operation looking through random people's windows at midnight hoping they find evidence of something, anything. This isn't how the fourth amendment is supposed to work.
You can color this whichever way you like to. It's pretty obvious to me which way the people that they were "protecting" feel about it. This exchange is a perfect example of the disconnect between what you see as acceptable, and the public sees as abhorrent.
Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:44 pm to theenemy
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This is a 911 call relying on the caller to explain what house it is. Isn't it possible the caller screwed up the address description.
So what. Isn't it incumbent upon the police to confirm the information is correct before rushing in guns blazing.
I don't see how anyone could argue that at BEST the cop is criminally negligent.
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