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re: Pitbull attacks, child dies
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:28 am to northshorebamaman
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:28 am to northshorebamaman
Yes, you are drunk. The actual rate is less than.000001%. The murder rate in most major cities around the world is significantly higher. You have about 70 million dogs in the US, of that, about 6% or 4.2 million are pits. That would come to a rate of 1.19047619047619e-5(this number is based off of 50 deaths in the year. The city of New Orleans has less than 1 million people and yet there were 155 murders last year. So let us base the entire population of pits on that very very very very tiny percent that have killed. It shows how people are easily manipulated.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:35 am to iwasthere
Why are we comparing murder rates to pit attacks? I get that both involve deaths, but does it really make sense to compare dog attacks to human attacks?
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:57 am to SUB
It make sense. A pit kills a person(and most of them time it can be attributed to a human mistake), and people want to kill all pits. If a human kills someone, the same people don't say to kill all humans. You might not agree with the comparison, but it can be compared. Why do people hold dogs to a higher standard than they do humans? A dog kills someone, they say kill all of them. A person kills someone, they say that person only needs to pay for it.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:27 am to iwasthere
If you are getting those statistics from Dogbites.org from another poster's input you are wasting your time.
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And in other news sanity and rational thinking prevailed in one community:
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Special Interest Adocacy Groups Statistics Objective?
Dogsbite.org is a "victim" advocacy group founded by Colleen Lynn. Its goal is to advocate on behalf of Breed Specific Legislation by lobbying legislators, aggressive internet advocacy, and most importantly, creating dog bite statistics that meet their agenda. PBLN previously highlighted the overall lack of objectivity at dogsbite.org here. This article will discuss why dogsbite.org statistics lack scientific basis, and how mainstream organizations have discredited attempts to create breed specific dog bite data. Relying on dogsbite.org bite statistics, is like allowing the fox to guard the henhouse.
CDC Says Breed Dog Bite Statistics Cannot Be Measured
Since the late 1990's the Center for Disease Control ceased tracking dog bites by breed/type, as it was their determination that such studies do "not identify specific breeds that are most likely to bite or kill, and thus is not appropriate for policy making decisions related to the topic....There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are likely to bite or kill." Makes a little sense; if you don't know the total number of dogs in a breed, you can't create a percentage of the number of dog bites per breed. So where are recent statistics generated from that are often published in news stories today? More importantly, how are they obtained? Is there any science behind the methodology of compiling these bite statistics by breed/type?
Who is Merritt Clifton And What Are His Credentials?
Most news stories obtain their Pro-BSL statistics from dogsbite.org. As noted above, Colleen Lynn started this anti-pitbull blog in 2007 as a result of what she decribed as a vicious pit bull attack. PBLN has previously reported on the evolution of this preventable accident into the myth of vicious pit bull attack. Initially, Lynn compiled her dog bite data from a study done by Merritt Clifton. Nobody has any idea what his raw data was, and none of his statistics are consistent with what independent peer reviewed research shows. He has no qualifications to do scientific research into dog behavior. Out of all the dog bite reports and information available in 2008, including the CDC and AVMA, Lynn chose Merritt Clifton's self published unscientific and uncredentialed report? Yes. It is the only report that agrees with the agenda of DBO.
DBO Fatal Dog Attack List Number Conflicts With CDC
Lynn has complied a Fatal Dog Attack list which includes 130 fatal dog attacks in the United States between 1900 - 2004. The problem with this list? The CDC shows 300 human dog fatalities between 1979 - 1996. Thus the 100 year DBO list has less than half of the total number of bites than the CDC 17 year list. Which list comes from a more objective source?
Identification of A Pit Bulls In Attacks Misrepresented
Lynn admits she has no expertise in dog behavior, identification, or dog bites. She is simply a web designer. So how does she decide what dog to put in the pit bull category? As many as possible? PBLN has already exposed the Philadelphia case where news sources unanimously agreed they had initially misrepresented the breed involved in a fatal attack: it was not a pit bull but a Cane Corso. DBO's response? The ASPCA conspired to change the breed to Cane Corso. Did this attack end up as a fatal pit bull attack in the statistics? This is not the only case of misrepresenting the breed of dog involved in an attack. In looking at DBO's historical attack list linked to actual media stories, one can quickly find stories that list the breed of dog as English Bull Dog, Boxer, or Boxer mix. Others fail to list the breed of dog at all, other than to identify it as a mixed breed. Yet all of them are classified under the pit bull breed.
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And in other news sanity and rational thinking prevailed in one community:
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Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:41 pm to ATXTiger1
Being that it was a bully, can we end all "Kill all pits "? Really makes the breed look worse than it already is. Sad because misunderstandings like this is only gonna lead to more of then being euthanized.
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