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re: Operator vs. Engineer?

Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:42 pm to
My dad did it for about 40 years. When I asked how he adjusted he said you never do.

Have also worked all kinds of swings, Dupont schedule; 2-3-2; whatever the 7 off shite is. None of them really make it better. There are trade offs.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:11 pm to
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Operators start at 50k/yr (straight time) whereas an engineer will start at 80k/yr. 10 years down the road the operator makes 80k (straight time) whereas the engineer can be anywhere between 100 - 300k depending on performance and promotions. Engineers who perform better and are promotable will be in the higher number. Low performers in the lower number.


Wherever that operator works he needs to get out ASAP. My base is 100k and that’s working nothing except built in OT. With just a couple days OT a month, I can make 130k.
Posted by GATORGAR247
Member since Aug 2017
994 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:18 pm to
Everyone has an opinion.. mine happens to be I love shift work .. your candy arse might not but thats on you for picking a shift job..
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:20 pm to
Gator you work at HRO?
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:27 pm to
I would throw in Lab Techs. Base pay once fully qualified which take about 2 years is $42. With overtime last year our average pay was around $130k.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94367 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:29 pm to
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Operators start at 50k/yr (straight time)




Where do you work? Because whomever is being paid that BS is getting bent over and fricked.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:50 pm to
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Where do you work? Because whomever is being paid that BS is getting bent over and fricked.


No joke!
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:47 pm to
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your candy arse might not but thats on you for picking a shift job..




You're probably one of the hard mother frickers that brags that you only need 5 hours of sleep when you get home because you get the 5 others sleeping in your office chair while everyone snickers at your opinion when you tell everyone why managment can't make money.

Meanwhile, you are giving hand jibbers to your shift lead hoping to maintain the 24hrs of OT you need per pay period to afford the lifestyle you pretend is easy to maintain.

Don't worry, I know your personality and can stroke your ego enough to have you doing some risky shite on nightshift for nothing more than bragging rights and a lunch ticket.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:50 pm to
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Where do you work? Because whomever is being paid that BS is getting bent over and fricked.


A lot of the small places around BR start you just marginally higher. $25/hr with shift diff and all for the first 6 months. Then a pretty large bump when you get your first skill.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60628 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:56 pm to
You will probably be divorced twice and bankrupt at least once in the next 15 years. LOL
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:00 pm to
Nah, he will work 1200 hours a year in order to prevent the bankruptcy. He will tell his coworkers getting paid is better than sitting home doing nothing on a Wednesday.

Neglect to realize he made so much that year because he worked two fulltime jobs.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6681 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:08 pm to
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Operators start at 50k/yr (straight time) whereas an engineer will start at 80k/yr. 10 years down the road the operator makes 80k (straight time) whereas the engineer can be anywhere between 100 - 300k depending on performance and promotions. Engineers who perform better and are promotable will be in the higher number. Low performers in the lower number.



Whole lot of wrong in this
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 7:15 pm
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6681 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:14 pm to
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fightin tigers


Why you mad baw
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:16 pm to
I'm laughing because I hear this same shite every. single. day.

Engineering is better in almost every single way than operations. It's just a fact. Hardcore ops boys will never admit it though.


Usually they all say they could have been an engineer too. Just one semester short.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 7:18 pm
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6681 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:21 pm to
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fightin tigers


How old are you?
Not trying to be smartass either
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 7:22 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:22 pm to


I'm really not sure what this has to do with any of it, but just say either side of 40.
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6681 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:24 pm to
just wondering why you are speaking in certainties like that. This is a college kid argument or a bitter person's argument that isn't happy with his life. Check Monroe's post a page or so back. It's spot on

Why can't both be viable options that can pay extremely well as long as the person in said job is knowledgeable and driven to succeed
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16950 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:27 pm to
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10 years down the road the operator makes 80k (straight time)


What type of plant does a 10yr operator make 80k at???

A chocolate factory?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:27 pm to
Because one is significantly better than the other.

It's just the way it is.

That doesn't mean that each job doesn't have positives and negatives. Engineers, good ones for sure, don't become operators. There is a reason why.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74438 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:30 pm to
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What type of plant does a 10yr operator make 80k at???



As far as base, several. Although that base pay is usually reflective of the operator and not what is available to them.

There are still a lot of positions that are still considered operators that don't pay near what some larger sites do.
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