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re: On this date in 1942, FDR sentenced thousands of Japanese-Americans to concentration camps
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:23 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:23 am to LNCHBOX
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No one is arguing the definition of the word.
Are you slow this morning?
Japanese Americans were held in concentration camps. That fits the exact definition of the word.
You can clearly say what happened to Japanese Americans is far different than Jews in Germany, but that's not what he said.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:24 am to Big_Slim
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Still man, Japanese weren’t in the same category as Italian or German immigrants back then. They are one of the most unique cultures in the world, and at the time still believed their emperor was descended directly from the gods. The echoes of the samurai culture were still strong back then.
From the Munson Report, commissioned by FDR at the start of the war. FDR had this report and still issued the Executive Order.
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The Issei have to break with their religion, their god and Emperor, their family, their ancestors and their after-life in order to be loyal to the United States. They are also still legally Japanese. Yet they do break, and send their boys off to the Army with pride and tears. They are good neighbors. They are old men fifty-five to sixty-five, for the most part simple and dignified. Roughly they were Japanese lower middle class, about analogous to the pilgrim fathers.
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The Nisei are pathetically eager to show this loyalty. They are not Japanese in culture. They are foreigners to Japan. Though American citizens they are not accepted by Americans, largely because they look differently and can be easily recognized.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 7:25 am
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:25 am to slackster
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Are you slow this morning?
Japanese Americans were held in concentration camps. That fits the exact definition of the word.
You can clearly say what happened to Japanese Americans is far different than Jews in Germany, but that's not what he said.
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You can’t be serious. Do you think the Japanese camps were anything like Auschwitz or Treblinka?
Where does that argue the definition of the word? You should just back away from this thread.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:25 am to LNCHBOX
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None of this is relevant to your stupid question. Don't try to backpedal.
It is wholly relevant. He said there was no choice because they were betraying the US and pledging allegiance to Japan. I asked what the crime was.
Betraying the US. How?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:27 am to slackster
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You can clearly say what happened to Japanese Americans is far different than Jews in Germany, but that's not what he said.
Who, me? Because that’s exactly what I said.
I have never argued nor cared about the definition of “concentration camp”. My only point is that the Jews were treated worse.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:27 am to slackster
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Betraying the US. How?
Irrelevant. You asked if betraying the US and pledging allegiance to Japan during WW2 was a crime. The answer is yes.
No amount of weaseling you try to do will change that. You asked a stupid question and now you're trying to get out of it. Not gonna happen.
Your exact words:
quote:quote:Is this a crime?
There were Japanese-Americans betraying the US and pledging allegiance to Japan.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:29 am to LNCHBOX
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Where does that argue the definition of the word? You should just back away from this thread.
The first fricking post in this thread
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:29 am to slackster
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Betraying the US. How?
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Takeo Yoshikawa (?? ?? Yoshikawa Takeo, March 7, 1914 – February 20, 1993) was a Japanese spy in Hawaii before the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.
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Because of his expertise on the U.S. Navy, Yoshikawa was sent to Hawaii under the cover of being a vice-consul named Tadashi Morimura (?? ? Morimura Tadashi), arriving on March 27, 1941, with Nagao Kita (?? ?? Kita Nagao), the new Japanese Consul-General aboard the liner Nitta Maru.[1] He rented a second story apartment that overlooked Pearl Harbor and would often wander around the island of Oahu, taking notes on Fleet movements and security measures.[3] He rented small planes at John Rodgers Airport and flew around, observing U.S. installations as well as diving under the harbor using a hollow reed as a breathing device.[2] He also gathered information by taking the Navy's own harbor tugboat and listening to local gossip.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:29 am to GetCocky11
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The Issei have to break with their religion, their god and Emperor, their family, their ancestors and their after-life in order to be loyal to the United States.
And this is exactly why I get what FDR did. I understand there were many Japanese patriots, but this is an awful lot to ask a person to give up in the name of loyalty to the US.
You’re probably right though, I’m just saying I get it.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:29 am to slackster
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The first fricking post in this thread
How about you quote it.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:29 am to GetCocky11
Yep.
It turned the tide and a few short years later, the war was over.
Makes you think.
It turned the tide and a few short years later, the war was over.
Makes you think.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:30 am to LNCHBOX
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Irrelevant. You asked if betraying the US and pledging allegiance to Japan during WW2 was a crime. The answer is yes.
horseshite and you know it. How they betrayed the US determines whether or not it was a crime.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:31 am to slackster
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horseshite and you know it. How they betrayed the US determines whether or not it was a crime.
This is sad, but you really don't have much to work with since your post was so stupid to begin with.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:31 am to LNCHBOX
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How about you quote it.
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While still wrong there’s a stark difference between what happened to Japanese Americans and concentration camps
This is patently false.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:32 am to slackster
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While still wrong there’s a stark difference between what happened to Japanese Americans and concentration camps
This is patently false.
Holy shite.
I have no words.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:33 am to LNCHBOX
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This is sad, but you really don't have much to work with since your post was so stupid to begin with.
, pledging allegiance to Japan is not a crime, to my knowledge. Betraying the US is vague, so I'll need examples of how that's a crime.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:34 am to slackster
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Betraying the US is vague
You are quickly becoming one of the worst posters here. You used to be so much better.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:34 am to LNCHBOX
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Holy shite.
I have no words.
Just so we're clear - define "concentration camps."
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:35 am to slackster
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This is patently false.
By all means, tell me how many Japanese starved to death in the American camps? Executed? Died from disease?
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