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re: Oklahoma lawmakers OK bill criminalizing performing abortion
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:13 pm to ULSU
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:13 pm to ULSU
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I don't believe because two people could not be bothered to take precautions to ensure they did not conceive a child is reason to abort a life.
If you disagree with this, there is something seriously wrong with your thought processes or heart or soul or something.
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:15 pm to ULSU
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That's not reason, that's morality policing
Other definition of the word there genius.
What is the reason the person is seeking an abortion?
The pregnancy medically endangers the mother...abort.
The pregnancy is the result of rape...abort at the mother's request.
The pregnancy is the result of incest...abort at the mother's request.
Mom couldn't be bothered to take a birth control pill and/or have dad wear a condom...NO.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:17 pm to Barf
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I was simply using your suggestion to let nature take it's course. Your words, not mine.
I said the zygote would develop into a baby if there is no outside interference, i.e. if you let nature take its course. In the context of the question of "when does life begin", that is my stance.
Taking that stance and trying to suggest that I should also avoid vaccinations is asinine.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:18 pm to TigersforEver
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If you disagree with this, there is something seriously wrong with your thought processes or heart or soul or something.
I don't have to personally agree with it to feel that another person has the right to make that choice for themselves. A guy in this thread had an Ectopic pregnancy aborted, I know a couple that aborted because the child was going to have club hands and feet and maybe be mentally retarded as well. I'm no one to make a judgement on their reasons for abortion, just like I am no one to judge another's reason. If it is legal, it is legal (and I think it should be).
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:20 pm to Azranod
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As the husband of a woman who had an ectopic pregnancy
I don't think any Pro-Life person would have an issue with a woman seeking medical treatment for an ectopic pregnancy(treatment that would end in the pregnancy being terminated). It isn't a viable pregnancy in the first place, the baby is going to die no matter what, and without medical treatment...the mother could also die.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:21 pm to ULSU
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That's not reason, that's morality policing
The morality is not up for debate with respect to abortion, and it is laughable and frankly sad that you think it is.
The legality is the only real argument to be had.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:22 pm to TechDawg2007
With all of the advancements in science, I don't understand how anyone could be for "just because" abortion.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:22 pm to slackster
While they were passing time and money away, this happened.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:25 pm to slackster
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The morality is not up for debate with respect to abortion, and it is laughable and frankly sad that you think it is.
Then you do believe that aborting an ectopic pregnancy is immoral, correct?
If so, then like I said earlier, you and I will never come very close to agreeing.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:26 pm to PortCityTiger24
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With all of the advancements in science, I don't understand how anyone could be for "just because" abortion.
Then no Plan B, right?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:26 pm to TigersforEver
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If you disagree with this, there is something seriously wrong with your thought processes or heart or soul or something.
The confirmation bias of the OT is strong.
Let's pretend we adopted this stance as law. What happens next?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:29 pm to HempHead
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Pretty sure that won't hold up once somebody takes it to the Feds.
feel good legislation
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:29 pm to stlslick
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uh, there is that little roe vs wade dealio
Ah yes, Roe v. Wade. When a cabal of unelected people holding power for life decided shite upon the Constitution of the United States of America and arbitrarily make their own law where no law existed before.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:30 pm to Barf
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I don't believe because two people could not be bothered to take precautions to ensure they did not conceive a child is reason to abort a life.
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If you disagree with this, there is something seriously wrong with your thought processes or heart or soul or something.
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The confirmation bias of the OT is strong. Let's pretend we adopted this stance as law.
What happens next?
People accept more personal responsibility and plan their evenings accordingly?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:50 pm to ULSU
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Then you do believe that aborting an ectopic pregnancy is immoral, correct?
In cases where the mother's life is at stake, then I think it should be up to the mother. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be some sort of "gotcha" moment, but being pro-life doesn't mean I'm pro-maternal death.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:51 pm to TechDawg2007
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"Since I believe life begins at conception, it should be protected, and I believe it's a core function of state government to defend that life from the beginning of conception," said Dahm, R-Broken Arrow.
idiot
idiot spending other people's money via government
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:52 pm to ULSU
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Then no Plan B, right?
plan B is/should be taken prior to fertilization, iirc
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:53 pm to slackster
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In cases where the mother's life is at stake, then I think it should be up to the mother. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be some sort of "gotcha" moment, but being pro-life doesn't mean I'm pro-maternal death.
well the problem is when you make the "moral" argument, especially "to protect children", then it makes it hard for the exceptions
Posted on 5/19/16 at 3:54 pm to slackster
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In cases where the mother's life is at stake, then I think it should be up to the mother. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be some sort of "gotcha" moment, but being pro-life doesn't mean I'm pro-maternal death.
Then in some cases, you see abortion as being a moral act? I am just trying to understand the concept that the morality on abortion is not in question.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 4:02 pm to ULSU
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Then in some cases, you see abortion as being a moral act? I am just trying to understand the concept that the morality on abortion is not in question.
The right to life is not in question, and that right extends to both the mother and the unborn child, at least IMO. Does that clear it up?
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