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re: (Not Common Core)-- Why are they teaching math this way?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:59 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 2/9/15 at 10:59 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Weekday the frick is a doubles fact?
It isn't exactly a hard concept...what is 4+4?
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A doubles plus one fact?
What is 4+5?
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What the frick is an addend/subtractahend?
That isn't clear from the problems given?
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Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:00 am to Bleeding purple
I don't see the problem.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:00 am to SallyWheeler
Exactly. Seems like it's better than teaching just rote tables/memorization. Just because you morons can't figure out what a subtrahend is, you get all pissy about it.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:00 am to Bleeding purple
This is simply ancedotal, but I've found that there is a correlation between a person's hatred of common core and their lack of math skills.
My wife absolutely hates it and she has issues with simple addition and subtraction.
My wife absolutely hates it and she has issues with simple addition and subtraction.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:01 am to TigerFanInSouthland
A doubles fact is 2+2= 4, or 5+5=10.
Doubles plus one would be 5+5+1=11, to show 5+6=11
Doubles plus one would be 5+5+1=11, to show 5+6=11
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:02 am to brgfather129
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It isn't "more work than it is worth"...it is the natural progression of understanding basic computation.
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The foundation of mathematics.
It is a whole lot more work than what it is worth.
My math teacher used to tell me "how many routes are there that you could take to go from the school to your house?"....then she would say "as long as you are getting home, does it really matter which one of those routes you chose to get there?" ---pretty much, as long as we got the right answer, did it really matter how we did it?
Everyone and every child learns differently and this 'new' way is forcing them all to learn the same way....
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:03 am to SallyWheeler
quote:I didn't learn that way and I never relied on my calculator.
It's teaching them how to not have to rely on a calculator by the time they are in 9th grade.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:03 am to LSUJuice
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Seems like it's better than teaching just rote tables/memorization.
Sadly, "that's how I learned it" is a common theme whenever this pops up. When a student is struggling with basic computation, which happens more often than you think, you have to start building-in mechanisms for students to arrive at the answer using something other than memorization.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:03 am to TigerPox
Isn't it quite the opposite? It's teaching new and different ways to solve the problems, thereby reaching more kids.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:05 am to TigerPox
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It is a whole lot more work than what it is worth.
You can keep repeating this all you want, but you are out of your element. You have no idea how helpful these concepts are to children in general, let alone those who are struggling to get "basic facts" to make sense.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:06 am to TigerPox
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I didn't learn that way and I never relied on my calculator.
Yeah - when I was a kid, they made us memorize the addition and multiplication tables. THEN they taught us how to use those skills to do complex addition/substraction/multiplication/division - THEN we learned algebra and later calculus.
They never tried to confuse us from the beginning.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:07 am to Ace Midnight
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when I was a kid, they made us memorize the addition and multiplication tables
That's great...you are a child struggling to learn 7+4 through memorization. Now what?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:07 am to tgrbaitn08
I hear ya. I sit close enough by my 3rd grader son to assist when he needs help on his math or language homework. Often times, I feel as you do. Thank God we have the ability to quickly "bone up" with a google search. When I would ask my parents 35 years ago and they would answer "I have no idea", they really had way of ascertaining the solution to help me.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:08 am to TigerPox
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Everyone and every child learns differently and this 'new' way is forcing them all to learn the same way....
Not really; it's showing them several different methods for arriving at the same answer. My kids' homework might have several problems with a "new" way, then several problems with the directions, "Find the answer using grouping, doubles facts or a number line".
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:09 am to TigerPox
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Everyone and every child learns differently and this 'new' way is forcing them all to learn the same way....
Do you have any idea how contradictory this statement is given what you are arguing against?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:09 am to junkfunky
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This is simply ancedotal, but I've found that there is a correlation between a person's hatred of common core and their lack of math skills.
My wife absolutely hates it and she has issues with simple addition and subtraction
I don't see the problem with Common Core. And keep in mind every state that got rid of Common Core failed in the years after. South Carolina is an example.
Common Core is a standard, not a curriculum. Curriculum is decided at the local level. I think what we're seeing is that we have inadequate teachers.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:09 am to brgfather129
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That's great...you are a child struggling to learn 7+4 through memorization. Now what?
The world needs ditch diggers too...
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:14 am to terd ferguson
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The world needs ditch diggers too...
Fair enough...and I taught plenty of future "ditch diggers" Calculus too. Call me an idealist, but I would rather we didn't start writing-off children in lower Elementary school.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:15 am to brgfather129
quote:If I were FORCED to do math that way from the beginning, I would have struggled. My teachers were always understanding of the fact that there were many different ways to solve a problem and didn't always have to go by the book. These methods of teaching are indeed forcing you to learning by the book.
Do you have any idea how contradictory this statement is given what you are arguing against?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:17 am to brgfather129
I loved calculus. Honestly, I loved math in general. I used to tutor a lot of kids and I understood very early on that the way I explained things with one kid may not work with the next one which may be why I have such strong feelings about this.
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