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re: My little ones were sitting on the sofa with me while I was watching the draft

Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:16 pm to
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but running from it and pretending you didn't hear them isn't the right way


I just wasn't prepared for it and I didn't want to say anything. These are teachable moments and he's at an age where he's very impressionable especially by me as his father. I wanted to make sure I had my thoughts together b/c I was definitely thrown when it came out of his mouth.

Parenting is really trial by fire. This is the first time I've had a question like this ask by either one of my kids. The reason why I initially avoided it was b/c I didn't know how to answer it in such a way that will relate to a 5 year old.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:17 pm to
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A woman making a choice to start dating women doesn't mean she wasn't always attracted to them

I hate myself for coming back to this thread


No, but it's proof that a person whose environmental issues growing up that leads them to that sin, can turn away from it and mate with a member of the opposite sex. Unfortunately, she is choosing sin right now.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:19 pm to
I was watching the Draft too.

Real glad my two little boys (7 and 3) weren't in the room when that was aired.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Tell them some guys like other guys. It doesn't have to be a big deal. If you make it one it will be.


This. Exactly. Sometimes parents overthink things or read more into something than needed. I told my child that some men date other men. I would have answered additional questions or addressed the info only if it was needed. Your child is going to learn about gay relationships either from you or from the general public. If you're open & honest with your kids, they will come to you when they have questions.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:20 pm to
The fact that you sin, but somehow you're sins are lesser than someone else's.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:21 pm to
Can't believe this hasn't been posted yet

LINK
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:21 pm to
Everyone sins regardless of how they grew up
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:21 pm to
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I will guarantee that a gay person with no ED can get it up for a very attractive woman.
A lot of dudes can get it up accidentally if the wind blows just right.

Anyway, it's pretty clear that it's not as black and white as straight/gay, and there is probably a sliding scale of sexuality. That said, I think it's very likely that even all 4 extremes (100% straight male, 100% straight female, 100% gay male and 100% gay female) can admire or even be attracted to a very attractive woman.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:22 pm to
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The fact that you sin, but somehow you're sins are lesser than someone else's.


I have stated repeatedly that mine aren't less than someone else's sins. I just stated that homosexuality is a sin. I've even stated it's no different than my own.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16353 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:23 pm to
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This. Exactly. Sometimes parents overthink things or read more into something than needed. I told my child that some men date other men. I would have answered additional questions or addressed the info only if it was needed. Your child is going to learn about gay relationships either from you or from the general public. If you're open & honest with your kids, they will come to you when they have questions.


I agree with this, but initially when this happened I was thrown

I do intend to talk to him about it tonight when I put him to bed.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Everyone sins regardless of how they grew up


100% truth. However, the way in which you grow up determines which sins you struggle with more.

Those who grow up with childhood trauma, abuse, lack of father figure, etc. tend to gravitate to homosexuality as a sin they struggle with.

I grew up in a competitive household with my brothers, thus the sin (s) I struggle with is jealousy, anger, etc.

Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13132 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:25 pm to
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I have stated repeatedly that mine aren't less than someone else's sins. I just stated that homosexuality is a sin. I've even stated it's no different than my own.


Whatever, throw your stones man.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Whatever, throw your stones man.



I have not once in this thread degraded or said anything negative towards a person who practices homosexuality. I have in this thread said multiple times that my sins that I struggle with are just as bad as their's.

Stating something is a sin is not judging them or condemning them. It's not discriminatory, it's not degrading. It's not like I walk around and curse at them or do anything to harm them. Just as I wouldn't want to be judged/condemned/harmed for my sins.

I'm not sure what your issue is with that, but I'm sorry you feel that way.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:27 pm to
I wouldn't say you handled it poorly.

Better to think it through and answer the way that works for you and your kids than to answer quickly and regret it.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:28 pm to
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Message Posted by Paige Everyone sins regardless of how they grew up


She's right about this and in Gods eyes all sin is equal and deserving of the same punishment. We're all equally sinners. In Gods eyes, without the blood of Christ even the Pope is as filthy as the the worst monster child molesters and murderers. We can't work our way out of it or really do anything about other than accept His mercy. For while it's true we all sin, it's also true He loves us all equally, no matter what our sins are.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:29 pm to
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he's right about this and in Gods eyes all sin is equal and deserving of the same punishment. We're all equally sinners. In Gods eyes, without the blood of Christ even the Pope is as filthy as the the worst monster child molesters and murderers. We can't work out way out of it or really do anything about other than accept His mercy. For while it's true we all sin, it's also true He loves us all equally, no matter what our sins are.


100% agreed.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:29 pm to
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I don't think you took it the way I meant that. I meant that they just wouldn't openly admit it's a choice, as it goes against their agenda and everything that society is pounding in their heads.
I think it's a mistake to assume all gay people have an agenda. I think the majority just want acceptance, in which case it doesn't matter whether it's a choice or not. The only people concerned with whether it is a choice are those who feel that it's a sin.
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Not that I'm not open to it, I just feel it would be entirely inappropriate and insulting to discuss that unprovoked.
It may be, and it probably depends on the individual. I'm sure if you really think about it, you can think of a gay family member.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41192 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:35 pm to
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I agree with this, but initially when this happened I was thrown I do intend to talk to him about it tonight when I put him to bed.


Yeah. We all have those awkward silent moments. My son said something about girls peeing out of their but. I asked why he thought that and he said because they sat down to pee and didn't have wieners. I was trying my hardest not to laugh and was wondering if it was necessary to explain the female body at that moment.

I wouldn't make a big deal about it tonight. He may have moved on and isn't even thinking about it anymore. There is so much about the world they don't understand and they are learning new things all the time. Many children just take things like this in stride and chalk it up to another piece of the world explained.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:42 pm to
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My son said something about girls peeing out of their but. I asked why he thought that and he said because they sat down to pee and didn't have wieners. I was trying my hardest not to laugh and was wondering if it was necessary to explain the female body at that moment.

Well, did you clarify things or not?!
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
54972 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:54 pm to
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Moustache, would you have a problem with a gay man babysitting your male children?


eh, I think that is good and fair question to ask

And yes, I would...

Lesbian might be different, but something about gay men... just no, not happening
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