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re: My little ones were sitting on the sofa with me while I was watching the draft
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:56 pm to Moustache
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:56 pm to Moustache
So you honestly believe Cynthia Nixon was never remotely attracted to women and one day chose to start being attracted to women??? Really? Do you think it would be possible for you if you were not a religious person to one day choose to be attracted to men? Do you honestly not see how silly this is???? 
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:00 pm to Korkstand
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It's just that if you ever decide to have a real conversation with a gay person about their sexuality, you might be convinced that it's not a choice.
Just so I get your premise correctly, you want me to ask a person who is committing said sinful behavior if they're choosing to commit a sin. The same person who is fighting for rights, marriage, acceptance, etc. etc. Even if it was a choice in their mind, why would they admit that?
As if they'll just come out and say, "You know what. I choose to do this."
They may have chosen the culture because they found acceptance or they have a subconscious desire for a strong male figure in their life since their father wasn't there.
What about gays that do admit it is a choice, like Cynthia Nixon?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:01 pm to mouton
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So you honestly believe Cynthia Nixon was never remotely attracted to women and one day chose to start being attracted to women??? Really? Do you think it would be possible for you if you were not a religious person to one day choose to be attracted to men? Do you honestly not see how silly this is????
I can only go by her words, man. Why would she lie about it?
And as far as I go, I've already answered you question multiple times, including pg 15 of this thread. No. I don't believe I could choose to be attracted to men. It's not a sin I struggle with. I struggle with wanting to be in control which feeds into jealousy, competitiveness, anger, rage, etc. while some people don't struggle with that at all. It doesn't make it not a sin, though.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:04 pm to Moustache
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Go see cynthia Nixon's comments when she decided to stop having sex with men and having kids and become a lesbian. She fully said it was a choice for her.
Seems like for some people it is a choice, just like I stated. You're being illogical by ignoring evidence and going off your feelings.
I'm sure you've heard the term "bisexual" before. So yeah, some people do have a choice I guess.
But that in no way implies that a 100% straight person could ever convince themselves to convert, just as a 100% gay person couldn't do the same. It's just not a choice like deciding what to have for lunch.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:04 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I'll proudly take my place along side Darth Vadar.
I have noticed that budding relationship. Just be sure not to act on those feelings.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:07 pm to Moustache
quote:You're right, it's pointless to try to convince someone of something when they already have their mind made up.
Just so I get your premise correctly, you want me to ask a person who is committing said sinful behavior if they're choosing to commit a sin. The same person who is fighting for rights, marriage, acceptance, etc. etc. Even if it was a choice in their mind, why would they admit that?
My mistake.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:08 pm to Korkstand
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It's just not a choice like deciding what to have for lunch.
I never said it was. I've never asserted it was as simple as that or that it isn't a complex issue. I stated some people's environmental factors lead them to make poor decisions or be predisposed to fall into that lifestyle. I do believe that every person can be attracted to the member of the opposite sex. That's basic evolution and biology. The animals you linked earlier were not exclusively practicing homosexual behavior.
Basically, poor environmental conditions can lead a person to express their angst/sexuality through homosexuality or other sexually deviant behaviors. They do however, have a choice to not do those things that are sinful.
I will guarantee that a gay person with no ED can get it up for a very attractive woman.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:09 pm to Rickety Cricket
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have noticed that budding relationship. Just be sure not to act on those feelings.
Of course not. That would be a sin.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:09 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Tell them some guys like other guys.
It doesn't have to be a big deal. If you make it one it will be. I've explained death and guys kissing to my 3 year old. I'm not sure he fully grasps either yet, but running from it and pretending you didn't hear them isn't the right way.
It doesn't have to be a big deal. If you make it one it will be. I've explained death and guys kissing to my 3 year old. I'm not sure he fully grasps either yet, but running from it and pretending you didn't hear them isn't the right way.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:10 pm to Moustache
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I can only go by her words, man.
I see, so you go by the words of one woman when they support your view, but you ignore the words of the millions which do not.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:10 pm to Korkstand
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You're right, it's pointless to try to convince someone of something when they already have their mind made up.
My mistake.
I don't think you took it the way I meant that. I meant that they just wouldn't openly admit it's a choice, as it goes against their agenda and everything that society is pounding in their heads. Not that I'm not open to it, I just feel it would be entirely inappropriate and insulting to discuss that unprovoked.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:12 pm to Korkstand
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see, so you go by the words of one woman when they support your view, but you ignore the words of the millions which do not.
No, of course not. He is asserting that 100% of people do not have a choice in the matter. I was leading him to a person who admitted it was.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:12 pm to Moustache
There is not one man who is not physically attracted to men who would just choose to start fricking them
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:13 pm to Moustache
You don't commit any sons by choice?
This whole "sinful behavior" shite is a joke. You sin, I sin, everyone sins.
This whole "sinful behavior" shite is a joke. You sin, I sin, everyone sins.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:13 pm to Paige
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There is not one man who is not physically attracted to men who would just choose to start fricking them
Paige'ism'....
Can I use this as my new sig quote?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:13 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Well tiger, they both like bobbing for baby arms.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:14 pm to Moustache
A woman making a choice to start dating women doesn't mean she wasn't always attracted to them
I hate myself for coming back to this thread
I hate myself for coming back to this thread
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:15 pm to Count Chocula
Help yourself
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:15 pm to Paige
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There is not one man who is not physically attracted to men who would just choose to start fricking them
I believe that a young man who had a rough childhood and poor enviornment factors (terrible relationship with their father) could.
It's not like he jumps out of bed and says, yup I'll frick men now. It's more progressive and it ends up being who he hangs out with. I knew a guy in the LSU band who is now married to a woman. He didn't come from the best of childhoods and was looking for acceptance. He hung out with a few gay guys and he ended up kissing him and making out when he was drunk. One thing led to another........
Now, are there men where that would not even be a remote possibility? of course. Teh majority that wouldn't be a possibility for.
Outcasts, rough childhoods, etc. can lead to deviant, sinful behavior. It doesn't mean they still can't be attracted to women or turn away from sin.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:16 pm to TexasTiger1185
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You don't commit any sons by choice?
This whole "sinful behavior" shite is a joke. You sin, I sin, everyone sins.
Um....I have admitted I sin. I'm not sure what you're taking issue with.
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