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re: Is Long COVID real?

Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:56 pm to
Age - in her mid 30s.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:14 pm to
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What is a predictable cycle?


An incubation period, a contagious period and a recovery period.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:18 pm to
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I heard people should do nose flushes at the beginning of systems of covid.


Absolutely. A neti pot will also help ameliorate cold and flu symptoms, since the sinuses are a main target for these viruses.

Posted by USMCguy121
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:18 pm to
Real. residual inflammation from covid infection.

Seems to come down to genetics, severity of infection, and comorbid factors.

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We had a friend who was a nurse at St. Dominic's in Jackson. She also caught covid early, before the vax came out. She kept getting worse and in a week, was in ICU at St. D. Then on a respirator. I remember the day they called her family in, allowed them to say good by and then unhooked her. I think she lasted 4 or 5 minutes. She was a poster child for good health. No weight conditions, no health concerns. Was a jogger with great BP and no respiration concerns. Lasted about 3 weeks after first diagnosis.

#2 the guy who cut my mom's yard was self employed witha family of four to support. He was in the hospital, unable to breath about a week after getting sick. Died maybe two months later. No insurance to cover a 2 month hospital before dieing stay. No insurance for his family. He was in good shape, young and a serious antivaxer.

#3 Old (elderly) mcouple friends in Marion, AL. Husband got (non covid) sick and was put in hospital in Birmingham early in the covid days. His wife (who would not leave his side) caught covid while he was in the hospital. He came home a few weeks later, after she died of it. She caught it and was dead maybe a week later. He satyed with her as much as they would let him and never caught it. They were both in their 70s and not vaccinated.

#4 My sister (an otherwise very healthy 60+ year old) in Texas has tested positive three times, has never missed a vaccine or booster. Her husband has never tested positive.


genetics is a pretty underrated factor imo. I remember some early studies said certain blood types were protective. then it was DEBUNKED (probably because it would stop certain people from taking the vaccine) and now it's back again.

I got covid very early on (pre vaccine) and it didn't do shite to me. I've had worse stomach flus. im not fit either and was fatter back then.

Hopefully further down the line we won't see some encephalitis lethargica type of shite.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:37 pm to
95+% of it is just the new version of fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:42 pm to
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An incubation period, a contagious period and a recovery period.



Sure.

What is the general timeframe for COVID? Particularly Omicron?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:24 pm to
Long Covid:
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a condition in which individuals infected with COVID-19 continue to experience a wide range of physical, mental, emotional, and psychological symptoms after their initial infection


New York State Department of Health definition.

Kind of a catch all with all the "feels" parts.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:54 pm to
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What is the general timeframe for COVID? Particularly Omicron?


The Omicron variant is extremely contagious but much milder than the original virus that entered the human population. Its incubation period is 2-3 days during which a person may have it but not feel sick.

Symptoms appear which helps the virus spread to other people. Sneezing and coughing are the primary methods of spreading the virus. However, the infected person can also spread it by touching surfaces or people.

A person will remain contagious for about 5 days after symptoms appear. This the CDC recommendation to self-isolate during this period.

Recovery can take up to 10 days for most people from the first manifestation of symptoms.

“Most people” is a critical term when describing the effects of any virus. People have different levels of health. We all react a bit differently to an infection.

There are some people who have a very difficult time with a specific virus, some can even die, and others may not even have any symptoms. The average effect is what is most descriptive of any pathogenic virus.

“Long Covid” is not an average effect. It’s not accurately descriptive of how the virus works. It does not stay in the person for months or years.

Rather, it’s the damage the virus does to lungs or other organs that causes a lengthy recovery period for some people. By no means are lengthy recovery periods common enough to warrant a label such as “long Covid.”

Some people have a lengthy recovery period for every pathogenic virus. It’s “normal.” However, there seems to be a movement afoot to declare a special status for those people who have lengthy recovery periods for Covid-19. It just isn’t warranted because it isn’t documented to be a conclusion.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 4:56 pm to
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I remember some early studies said certain blood types were protective. then it was DEBUNKED (probably because it would stop certain people from taking the vaccine) and now it's back again.


A good friend of mine never got any shots. He has type O blood and was reasonably healthy for a chubby 60-year-old. He has a fairly large family and they all work together. It has run through his family -- one daughter even got when she checked in to deliver twins -- he's been around all of them. Never got sick.
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