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re: Is alligator overpopulation a huge problem, or no?

Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:53 am to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43016 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:53 am to
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Everglades




why the hell do grown human beings allow python populations to expand?

There's not much that humans can do at this point. The damage is done. They have hunters that go out pretty much every night and capture and kill them, but a single female can lay up to 100 eggs at a time. Not to mention, the Everglades is massive with lots of hiding spots. You can walk past a 20 footer and never even know.





wow
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43016 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 7:56 am to
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A guy I used to work for 50 years ago, had a hunting camp up in Eudora and said there were a lot of alligators there, some 12 footers too.




they've crawled north from that a little bit bruh
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2147 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:08 am to
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This isn't true. You can kill all the invasive pythons you want in Florida. Per FWC: quote: Hunting on Private Land: Nonnative reptiles like Burmese pythons can be humanely killed on private lands at any time with landowner permission - no permit required- and the FWC encourages people to capture and humanely kill pythons from private lands whenever possible. There is no bag limit. quote: Hunting on Commission-managed lands: Per Executive Order 23-16, nonnative reptiles including pythons may also be humanely killed at any time throughout the year on 32 Commission-managed lands listed below. All specific provisions in Executive Order 23-16 and all area rules and must be followed. No permit or hunting license is required. There is no bag limit.


You have to read all of the “specific provisions”. Unless it’s changed, they have to be caught by hand, “humanely killed”, then taken to a center for measurement and documentation.

“Humanely killed” doesn’t mean shooting it with a 12 gauge, that’s not allowed.

They had really stupid rules there at one time, you had to have a special permit to go after them on state land.
Posted by Tigersince99
Member since Jan 2025
163 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:09 am to
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My Facebook moms group has been hearing rumors about an alligator-worshipping Satanic cult that's been growing again and is feeding trafficked children to gators as part of their sex rituals. Most of the local politicians are believed to be part of it too.


Gator Gate?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29279 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 9:32 am to
No, for three reasons:

1. Alligators are edible, and delicious

2. Alligators are the source of useful products, like clothing accessories and designer handbags.

3. Alligators are apex predators who control the population of invasive and nuisance species

Posted by UncleLogger
Freetown
Member since Jan 2008
2953 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:40 am to
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if we had salt water or nile crocs people would get attacked all the time.


Those salt water crocs in Northern Australia are fricking scary. They have “safe” designated swimming areas, signage everywhere, croc patrols etc. and the crocodiles still eat people at a good clip.

& thank God we don’t have those assholes in Louisiana. Duck hunting would get real sporty for sure.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2927 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:52 am to
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Give me a break dude. You do realize that there is a long list of things that have a signifcantly better chance of killing your child than fkn alligators, right?


I live on the river and I've spent most of my life IN the river, wading, noodling, swimming and fishing. I've probably spent more time in the water than most 20 year olds have spent on land. I can tell you there is absolutely nothing in the rivers and creeks that have a better chance of killing a child than a gator. Any local with an ounce of common sense knows that.

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How did your son almost get attacked?


Swimming across a deep hole between the bank and a submerged sand bar. Just swimming.

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I'll just go ahead and assume that he was making himself vulnerable (under your supervision I presume.)


My point exactly. He was vulnerable because he was swimming. Think about that for a minute, then think some more.

I'm an amiable guy. Any time you want, you have an open invitation to try it. We can walk down to the same spot it happened and you can jump in and show us all how not to be vulnerable.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2927 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:56 am to
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3. Alligators are apex predators who control the population of invasive and nuisance species


Same thing the animal control officer told me after the incident, but he added
"If you are in or near the water you are on their food chain. This time of year (July 4th weekend) with the water in the river being low their food sources are scarce and they will eat you."
This post was edited on 2/14/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
66401 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 10:58 am to
There are tons of them where I live. No pythons here either. They are predators for sure and they are all over the place. As I drive home from work everyday (about 25 miles), I watch all the ponds. I see them everywhere from ponds in neighborhoods to just basic retention ponds less than a 1/2 acre on the side of the exit ramps. Amazing how many of them there are in cities if you just look for them and pay attention

I fish in the pond that is behind my home. Pond is about 15 feet from my pool cage. There is a 7 footer that comes and goes in that pond and that thing tracks me when I walk the banks. I watch for him constantly. He will just keep swimming towards me until I eventually get nervous and back up or go home. He could get a kid very easily if he was not paying attention.


Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29279 posts
Posted on 2/14/25 at 12:34 pm to
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they will eat you

Alligators are generally non-aggressive animals towards humans, with the exception of mother gators protecting their babies. Also, if you see a gator, DO. NOT. RUN! Instinctively it will chase you-- and you will instantly become gator bait! An alligator can run as fast as a horse for short distances on land.
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