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re: I’m about to get my sleep study done right now
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:42 am to Arthur Bach
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:42 am to Arthur Bach
You going to have sleep apnea...I don't think 1% of folks who have had a sleep study done do not wind up diagnosed with sleep apnea...it is a huge industry based on dubious at best science. The odds of not having sleep apnea when referred for a sleep study is so remote we would be well served as consumers of health care to simply skip the study and go on and prescribe the cpac machine...'cause it is going to happen practically 100% of the time.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:47 am to C9
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Never had a single person that got a sleep study not get diagnosed with a problem - its a scam.
Anecodtally I took my father for a hearing aid exam and a sleep study within 2 weeks of one another about 15 years ago. The sales pitch was exactly the same....both gave him the grave news that he was deaf as a stone or was about to die in his sleep and traditionally he would just have to live with it, there was no hope....but thanks to the marvels of technology they now had great news for sufferers of both disorders....and while they had base models that would more or less turn the trick the really smart money was to buy the Ferrari model at about 6 times the cost of the basic model. It may be a real disorder but the industry pretends like it is snake oil, and probably for a reason....
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:50 am to AwgustaDawg
You either stop breathing in your sleep or you don’t, starving your brain of oxygen and inducing a bunch of negative downstream effects
But keep telling yourself it isn’t real because they want money for the machine to help you
But keep telling yourself it isn’t real because they want money for the machine to help you
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:53 am to Asharad
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who gets a sleep study if everything is OK?
Based on the number of adults in the United States and the rest of the western world, the difference between life expectancy prior to sleep apnea being a pandemic and now and the amount of gilding applied at the typical sleep study center where monthly rent approaches that of a sizeable apartment community...they entire community, simple math would suggest almost everyone who has one done is doing it when everything is OK....
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:21 am to Proximo
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You either stop breathing in your sleep or you don’t, starving your brain of oxygen and inducing a bunch of negative downstream effects
But keep telling yourself it isn’t real because they want money for the machine to help you
I don't doubt for a moment that it can indeed help some people...equally I have no doubt, given my personal experience with the industry with myself, my father, my wife and a good friend who is pushing 90 and still does electrical work on the side about 4 days a week I know with no un-certainty that the industry consists of a sizeable number of very posh and expensive facilities where they high pressure up sell people, many of whom are on Medicare and of the opinion that "by god I earned it, I am going to get it 'cause it ain't costing ME a penny" in the exact way that snake oil salesmen of old would push their products. No doubt some of the snake oil pushed in the past had some positive impact on the lives of people who bought it...if nothing else a placebo effect where their taking action was the true elixir and not that of the actual balm or tonic they had purchased.
For every study done by the industry there is another study which indicates that the positive impacts are either non-existent or severely over blown. Mathematically the advent of the sleep apnea industry has not increased life expectancy at all, in fact life expectancy increases have slowed down considerably after the industry became widespread...from 1900 to 1985 life expectancy averaged an increase of about .432 years every year. Since 1985, the year the industry touts as the beginning of the sleep apnea industry, that number has averaged .046 years if increase. It is not possible to determine the underlying cause of this because it is a million different things but one that can be said for certain is that the sleep apnea industry, a $7.5 billion a year industry, has not done a lot to increase life expectancy. Couple this with the used car salesman tactics common in the industry and it is not out of the question that the industry is nothing more than snake oil by and large.
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