re: How to go about using a job offer to get a raise in a professional way? Update

Sad you millenials jump from job to job every 6 months then threaten your poor boss with it into giving you a raise. Us boomers gave the plant 40 good years and they always took care of us with raises, pensions, watches, etc. it’s called rewarding loyalty

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As someone who has dealt with this type of situation for many years.

I have never given someone a raise in this situation. I always tell them that if they want to take the other job then they should.

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I would never do it either...but fur subtle reasons. First off, if a company is being properly managed losing an employee is not that big a deal. Folks leave for all manner of reasons...more money, moving, etc. Its just business. What I wouldn't want in my organization is an employee who I just proved I had been under valuing for whatever reason. That employee is likely to be happy with a raise initially but just as likely to quickly realize that the company had been undervaluing them. Nothing will make a disgruntled employee quicker than realizing they could have been making more money for any length of time...the higher the raise the faster that will become disgruntled...and their unhappiness will become contagious. I would congratulate them on their new gig and tell them they'd be welcome back anytime they wanted. If they were truly prized, unlikely if the company is managed properly and still in a position to raise the salary substantially, I might contact them in 6 months or so and get a feel for where they are and possible offer them a job with some more responsibility and a substantial raise over what they were making. If I had indeed been under valuing them to begin with....

In a properly managed company raises are not a thing outside of cost of living raises. Unless the employee has somehow become more valuable to the company, something a well managed company would recognize and raise the salary anyway, asking for or giving a raise is apt to cause more trouble for everyone than it could ever fix. If the company is being mismanaged then undervaluing employees is probably par for the course...I wouldn't want to work for that company.

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I'm well aware it's not the best company, but the other one is worse.

This was a move to get a good raise. It worked.

I'll still be open to other better positions I may actually leave for.

Plus the other one was going to about an extra 40 minute drive a day. And going from a 9-80 schedule to standard 8-5.

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Sounds like it worked out for you. Congratulations. Given the structure of the company as you described, not unusual in large companies, you probably did as well as anyone could possibly do. Your willingness to consider other options is the key...many people aren't. Well done!

It is often missed by many folks but the United States is currently, and has been for some time, a sellers market when it comes to labor. Employers are hard pressed to find competent employees with experience. There are very few industries where this isn't so. It may be ending soon judging from the various indicators and talk of big layoffs, but it ain't ended yet. It has been a fantastic 8-10 years if you make a living selling experienced, skilled labor. It has been great for the inexperienced as well...looks like it may be ending but its been a good run for many....

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who has the resignation letter?...

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Me, and it's not signed.