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How "bourbon" got it's name...Bourbon County or Bourbon Street in New Orleans?

Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:00 am
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:00 am


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The origin of bourbon is not well documented. There are many conflicting legends and claims, some more credible than others. For example, the invention of bourbon is often attributed to Elijah Craig, a Baptist minister and distiller credited with many Kentucky firsts (e.g., fulling mill, paper mill, ropewalk) who is also said to have been the first to age the product in charred oak casks, a process which gives bourbon its reddish color and distinctive taste. Across the county line in Bourbon County, an early distiller named Jacob Spears is credited with being the first to label his product as Bourbon whiskey.

There likely was no single "inventor" of bourbon, which developed into its present form only in the late 19th century.

The late date of the Bourbon County etymology has led Louisville historian Michael Veach to dispute its authenticity. He proposes that the whiskey was named after Bourbon Street in New Orleans, a major port where shipments of Kentucky whiskey sold well as a cheaper alternative to French cognac.


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Though the Filson Historical Society is home to bourbon labels printed as early as the 1850s, he says, “the story that the name ‘bourbon’ comes from Bourbon County doesn’t even start appearing in print until the 1870s.” Instead, Veach believes the name evolved in New Orleans after two men known as the Tarascon brothers arrived to Louisville from south of Cognac, France, and began shipping local whiskey down the Ohio River to Louisiana’s bustling port city. “They knew that if Kentuckians put their whiskey into charred barrels they could sell it to New Orleans’ residents, who would like it because it tastes more like cognac or ‘French brandy’,” says Veach.

In the 19th century, New Orleans entertainment district was Bourbon Street, as it is today. “People starting asking for ‘that whiskey they sell on Bourbon Street,’” he says, “which eventually became ‘that bourbon whiskey.’”



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I'll drink to that!

This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 6:23 am
Posted by TexasTiger89
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:05 am to
Interesting. No wonder I love the stuff.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 6:11 am
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:06 am to
Sounds like it was distilled in Kentucky and caught it's name from louisiana where it was bought more.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 6:09 am
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:12 am to
Another fun fact...Jack Daniel’s is not considered "bourbon".

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For a spirit to be considered bourbon it must adhere to six standard rules: It must be made in the U.S.; aged in new, charred white oak barrels; and be at least 51 percent corn. It also must be distilled at less than 160 proof (80 percent alcohol by volume) and entered into a barrel at below 125 proof. Lastly, there can be no artificial coloring or flavor (hence the reason Jack Daniel’s is a Tennessee whiskey: it’s filtered over maple wood chips before bottling). The darker the bourbon, the higher the alcohol content; and for a true taste of its complexities, open your mouth while sipping.



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Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:14 am to
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Another fun fact...Jack Daniel’s is not considered "bourbon".

No offense but that's pretty common knowledge. I've never heard JD called bourbon in my life.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:14 am to
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Sounds like it was distilled in Kentucky and caught it's name from louisiana where it was bought more.


Not disputing it comes from KY, just how it's named.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:18 am to
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Jack Daniel's is a brand of Tennessee whiskey and the highest selling American whiskey in the world. It is produced in Lynchburg, Tennessee, by the Jack Daniel Distillery, which has been owned by the Brown-Forman Corporation since 1956. Despite being the location of a major operational distillery, Jack Daniel's home county of Moore is a dry county, so the product is not available for consumption at stores or restaurants within the county.

The product meets the regulatory criteria for classification as a straight bourbon, though the company disavows this classification and markets it simply as Tennessee whiskey rather than as Tennessee bourbon. As defined in the North American Free Trade Agreement, Tennessee Whiskey is classified as a straight bourbon authorized to be produced in the state of Tennessee


The more you know...
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:22 am to
Back at you. If you ever ask for a bourbon and get JD, find a new bar.
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Tennessee whiskey is straight bourbon whiskey produced in Tennessee. However, most current producers of Tennessee whiskey disclaim references to their products as "Bourbon" and do not label them as such on any of their bottles or advertising materials. All current producers are required by Tennessee law to produce their whiskey in Tennessee and, with one exception, to also use a filtering step known as the Lincoln County Process prior to aging the whiskey – which some assert makes the product distinct from the more generic product category called Bourbon.


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Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:24 am to
And back at you...

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Tennessee whiskey is straight bourbon whiskey produced in Tennessee.


Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:25 am to
I knew you'd ignore the rest of it.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:27 am to
Cut to the chase bud...

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As defined in the North American Free Trade Agreement, Tennessee Whiskey is classified as a straight bourbon authorized to be produced in the state of Tennessee.


QED

Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:30 am to
Whatever dude. I bar-tended for years. No one (well almost no one ) considers JD a bourbon. But it's 4:30 in the morning and that's all the energy I have for arguing over Jack Daniel's.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:33 am to
All I'm saying is there is a very minor difference. And your American bar-tending experience is vastly different from what I experience in Europe as a whole and the UK in particular.

Over there, if you ask for "bourbon" you're likely to be served Jack Daniels.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:34 am to
That is true. I lived in Germany for a few years and that's their go to American whiskey/bourbon.

This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 6:36 am
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:37 am to
I'm in the UK and Europe a lot. That's how I know that.

As an aside, remind me how you make the ?

I r-clicked and used image to make that one. I used to know the command, but forgot it.

TIA
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:38 am to
: casty :
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:38 am to
Thanks!

Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:40 am to
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:44 am to
I toured the heavenhill distillery which makes Elijah Craig and Evan Williams. They mixed your 2 stories of Elijah Craig and people from Nola asking for the whiskey from bourbon county. Eventually, they just started asking for the bourbon.

Also, jack isn't considered bourbon because they don't use NEW charred oak barrels.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 6:48 am
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:53 am to
Interesting theory, but unfortunately it is bullshite.

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