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re: Home alarm system...who do you use?

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Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:51 am to
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Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:53 am to
I read a while back that the alarm going off is really the only thing needed. 99.9% of burglars are gone once that is set off.

My house is wired for that on all the doors and windows and motion sensor when I'm away (which I can't set because of my pooch).

Why should I get a contract for remote monitoring? So I get a call if something happens? Is that worth $25 a month?

I am undecided. Sway me.
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:31 am to
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50 a month


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Posted by nchawg
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 9:37 am to
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I've looked at this system a little. Seems like it gets pricey up front if you have a lot of windows/doors to monitor. Do you monitor every window of your house, or do you just use a motion sensor?


I use entry sensors on the doors leading outside. I also have entry sensors on windows I believe would be used as prime entry points for thieves. I augment it with motion sensors.

If I was to do it again, I would have just used entry sensors for the outside doors, and used motion sensors for key rooms with potential entry points (rooms with multiple windows, garage, etc). Much cheaper that way.

I have a two story house so the only sensor I have upstairs is a motion sensor for the hallway.

I have never used the glass break sensors.
Posted by GoIrish02
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:31 am to
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Why should I get a contract for remote monitoring? So I get a call if something happens? Is that worth $25 a month?


Not sure if you're serious, but most people want the monitoring so the system will notify the police if you have an alarm. A local alarm is about as useful as an unloaded gun. Otherwise, you just have a car alarm for your house that your neighbors more than a house away cannot hear and it will probably annoy the neighbors right next to you if it keeps going off for hours on end.

My alarm has panic buttons on the panel to call the police, fire department and heat sensors to call the fire department automatically if fire is detected. If you have kids who stay home alone, if you ever travel, if you leave an iron plugged in accidentally, would the $300 you save be enough satisfaction if your house burned down while you weren't home?

I think you're overestimating the deterrent effect of the sound itself on an intruder, its only value is if the intruder thinks the police are coming. Do you want the police to come if someone actually comes in your house, whether you're there or not? Do you want the fire department to come if you're on vacation and they call you to tell you your kitchen is on fire?

That said, the monitoring is a commodity that has gotten much cheaper to provide via a wireless GSM card and you shouldn't pay more than $15-25 per month. It's a discrete service and the monitoring company location doesn't matter, they're all going to call the same local police/fire department that serves your house.

I pay the monitoring fee annually to a company in North Carolina that I found through the installation company. The installation company was bought by a larger local company (APS in Metairie) that wanted to charge more for the same monitoring and to charge me to install "their" GSM card. I kept the original company in North Carolina, as I really don't want the monitoring subject to the same geographic/weather disruptions of Louisiana. I explained to the guy at APS I considered locally-based monitoring in South Louisiana as a reason to avoid his company, not to mention charging $10/month more for the exact same service.

FYI, every alarm company will try to charge more for the GSM/wireless monitoring but it's actually cheaper to provide than wired monitoring.

The monitoring service isn't tied to the system and any alarm company can accommodate your system with a few technology tweaks these days.

Also, most retail alarm companies labor and overhead are dedicated to selling/installing equipment. It costs the retail alarm company relatively no labor & overhead to outsource the monitoring service to a third party call center. Use that knowledge to negotiate your best deal on monitoring.
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 11:03 am
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:45 am to
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:02 am to
I leave my doors unlocked come on in baw
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Not sure if you're serious, but most people want the monitoring so the system will notify the police if you have an alarm. A local alarm is about as useful as an unloaded gun. Otherwise, you just have a car alarm for your house that your neighbors more than a house away cannot hear and it will probably annoy the neighbors right next to you if it keeps going off for hours on end.

My alarm has panic buttons on the panel to call the police, fire department and heat sensors to call the fire department automatically if fire is detected. If you have kids who stay home alone


I live in an urban town home connected to a neighbor and close to several others, no kids, its brand new construction so no old electric shenanigans, no gas lines to the house, fire department is about 500 yards down the street, and my wife is always home. Also have very thick doors, dead bolts, safety locks on windows, motion lights, a loaded gun, and a very loud big dog.

quote:

I think you're overestimating the deterrent effect of the sound itself on an intruder, its only value is if the intruder thinks the police are coming.


Studies have shown that the sound of the alarm is the biggest deterrent to burglars continuing their break in. They have no clue whether or not the police are coming and assume they are and that sound brings attention to them, which is precisely what they do not want.

I don't think its really worth it at this point. When I have kids and more risk I will definitely do it though.

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