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Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:56 pm to Hangover Haven
Small doses of creatine and protein powder. Otherwise healthy diet with plenty of meat, eggs, fish, and fruit.
Lots of water and lots of sleep (that's when you grow and repair).
That's all he needs.
ETA:
Creatine will make him gain some water weight as others have pointed out, not sure what his desired weight class is or if he's above/below it.
Lots of water and lots of sleep (that's when you grow and repair).
That's all he needs.
ETA:
Creatine will make him gain some water weight as others have pointed out, not sure what his desired weight class is or if he's above/below it.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 11/2/23 at 2:56 pm to Tyga Woods
How do you control that? Only give him money for specific things and demand receipts? You never used money given to you by parents for things other than what it was intended?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:01 pm to LSUGrrrl
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How do you control that?
Same way you’re controlling it now. If you want us to continue paying/providing abc we expect you to xyz.
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You never used money given to you by parents for things other than what it was intended?
All the time
At least make them have to be sneaky about it.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:01 pm to LSUGrrrl
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My son is 17 and is heavily committed to body building. He benches 295 but is asking to take creatine. Our answer has been a hard no. Brought him to his doctor and had her talk to him privately so he would feel more open about what supplements he wanted to take and had her address each with possible health risks and side effects. He’s still asking to take it and our answer is still no. However, he will be 18 next year and don’t know how we would stop him then.
You're not going to stop him now if he's dead set on taking it. If he has friends also into bodybuilding that's no issue at all for him to get it through them.
All you can do is equip your kids with the best information you can find and trust them to make good decisions.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:08 pm to Rick9Plus
So do you let a middle schooler drink milk? Protein supplement is the same thing
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:10 pm to LSUGrrrl
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My son is 17 and is heavily committed to body building. He benches 295 but is asking to take creatine. Our answer has been a hard no. Brought him to his doctor and had her talk to him privately so he would feel more open about what supplements he wanted to take and had her address each with possible health risks and side effects. He’s still asking to take it and our answer is still no. However, he will be 18 next year and don’t know how we would stop him then.
Why? Based on what? You didn’t even research it apparently and because you are ignorant on that you think you are right?
Read the studies I linked throughout the thread. Not only should you allow him to take it, you and your husband should be taking it too.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:11 pm to Tyga Woods
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At least make them have to be sneaky about it.
I’m not sure I want him to be sneaky about any supplements he takes. I don’t doubt he will eventually sneak it but I’d prefer he make open decisions so I know what I’m dealing with if anything goes wrong.
Right now, the only control I really have is his food chain. Not only do I provide his normal meals, we pay for his supplemental meal delivery weekly. He’s bulking right now so his calorie intake is astronomical and the supplemental meals are nutritionally balanced to meet his current goals.
Ultimately though, if he wants to take it he will take it. I’ve no doubt he has access to it through the gym and the people he spends 2-3 hours a day with.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:13 pm to Goldrush25
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You're not going to stop him now if he's dead set on taking it. If he has friends also into bodybuilding that's no issue at all for him to get it through them. All you can do is equip your kids with the best information you can find and trust them to make good decisions.
That would require research and effort to educate herself
The amount of dumbass parents out there who immediately say no to things without any research or critical thinking on things is so laughable.
Like the guy that said he would give protein to a middle schooler….so you wouldn’t allow them to drink milk?
If you won’t let them take creatine….are you going to take red meat away too? Cause it’s found in that but takes eating pounds of meat to get the amount we need in our body.
Y’all have no qualms shoveling McDonald’s down their throat though
Sorry for the rant, not meant to anyone in particular just the dumb people in this thread
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:13 pm to lsu777
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because you are ignorant
plz don’t call mp grrrl ignorant. k? thanks.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:14 pm to LSUGrrrl
Once they begin driving you really don’t have much control but you can’t let them know that
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:15 pm to Tyga Woods
If the shoe fits….lace that MFer up and wear it
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:15 pm to lsu777
take it back
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:16 pm to lsu777
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Why? Based on what?
His doctor’s recommendation last year.
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Read the studies I linked throughout the thread.
I will because I am ignorant on the topic and would like to know more about what he wants to put into his body. I will then ask his doctor her opinion on those studies.
We aren’t completely close-minded about this. I take supplements to compete well in tennis. However, it’s tough to change from feeding him a clean diet his entire life to adding in non-necessary supplements.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:26 pm to lsu777
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That would require research and effort to educate herself
See my response above. I’m definitely willing to become more educated.
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The amount of dumbass parents out there who immediately say no to things without any research or critical thinking on things is so laughable.
I said no based on his doctor’s recommendations. I will read the studies you posted then ask for his doctor’s opinion on those studies before making another decision. BTW, we chose this particular doctor for him when we brought him back from Russia at 12 months old and less than 17 lbs because she was familiar with international medicine and is open to outside the norm info. She always gives her opinion then allows me to make the decision from there.
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Y’all have no qualms shoveling McDonald’s down their throat though
My child has been fed a home cooked, clean diet his entire life. Fast food is a rarity for us, usually just when he’s with his friends. Even then they prefer to go to restaurants for sushi or hibachi.
I may not be knowledgeable on creatine specifically but I am not ignorant overall on nutrition. I’ve competed in dance or sports since I was 8 years old and still compete on 4 different tennis teams across DFW. I haven’t missed playoffs in 12 seasons once. My husband works out 5-6 days a week.
Chill, bro.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:26 pm to LSUGrrrl
What was the doctors reasoning? Because if your kid doesn’t have kidney disease than your doctor is closed minded, biased, ignorant or just a straight stupid frick which is usually the case
Take a look at the examine.com links I posted.
If you ever have a question on supplements, if they are safe, if they work etc examine.com is where you should look. All studies and meta analysis will be linked there
As far as creatine..you wouldn’t stop him from eating red meat…so why would you stop him from taking creatine? It’s naturally found in red meat.
Take a look at the examine.com links I posted.
If you ever have a question on supplements, if they are safe, if they work etc examine.com is where you should look. All studies and meta analysis will be linked there
As far as creatine..you wouldn’t stop him from eating red meat…so why would you stop him from taking creatine? It’s naturally found in red meat.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:28 pm to LSUGrrrl
I’m chill, atleast you open to listening, most that have posted no just said no because.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:35 pm to LSUGrrrl
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My child has been fed a home cooked, clean diet his entire life. Fast food is a rarity for us, usually just when he’s with his friends. Even then they prefer to go to restaurants for sushi or hibachi.
I may not be knowledgeable on creatine specifically but I am not ignorant overall on nutrition. I’ve competed in dance or sports since I was 8 years old and still compete on 4 different tennis teams across DFW. I haven’t missed playoffs in 12 seasons once. My husband works out 5-6 days a week.
But those were your choices based on what you thought was best for him. Now he's going to start making judgments and decisions that he thinks are best for him, and some will likely diverge from your beliefs. Some of what you instilled in him will stick, some of it won't.
He's going to make decisions about his diet and lifestyle, some will be harmless, some may be mistakes in your eyes (or in anyone's eyes) but only way the guy is going to grow is to allow him to make those choices and live with the results. Plus you don't really have a choice in the matter, or at least not for long.
It's not like we're talking about anabolic steroids. Try learning everything you can about it with him and at least that way you can have some influence on his responsible use of supplements. This road of forbidding it isn't going to work out, it wouldn't work on me.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:40 pm to Hangover Haven
What weight class is your son?
If the wrestling program he’s with if they are a great program they’d be cognizant of diet and nutrition because weight cutting occurs. I don’t recommend that for kids and teenagers especially if weigh ins are the morning of competition.
Would he be allowed to compete in different weight classes if he knows he’ll be heavy the week prior to competition?
If the wrestling program he’s with if they are a great program they’d be cognizant of diet and nutrition because weight cutting occurs. I don’t recommend that for kids and teenagers especially if weigh ins are the morning of competition.
Would he be allowed to compete in different weight classes if he knows he’ll be heavy the week prior to competition?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 3:43 pm to Goldrush25
You are right and I know it.
The biggest hurdle for me right now is that I’m strongly against the amount he is currently bulking. I get adding weight to then convert to muscle but the amount of weight he is adding is a huge concern for me. He’s currently at 200 lb at 5’10” and wants to get to 250 lb within a year. That’s a lot of weight to add when his body isn’t fully developed yet and that’s a lot of fat cell generation that will stay with him for the rest of his life. Adding creatine feels like adding flame to the gas.
The biggest hurdle for me right now is that I’m strongly against the amount he is currently bulking. I get adding weight to then convert to muscle but the amount of weight he is adding is a huge concern for me. He’s currently at 200 lb at 5’10” and wants to get to 250 lb within a year. That’s a lot of weight to add when his body isn’t fully developed yet and that’s a lot of fat cell generation that will stay with him for the rest of his life. Adding creatine feels like adding flame to the gas.
This post was edited on 11/2/23 at 3:45 pm
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