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re: Could The University of Alabama be the next Baylor. UPDATE:Another victim has come forward
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:50 pm to 14&Counting
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:50 pm to 14&Counting
That is what makes me curious about to the actual extent of everything. I'm just not really privy to what level of proof (if any) people need to make these claims in a law suit, how much fact finding is typically done prior to making these allegations, etc.
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Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:56 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Jesus H. Christ...this is directly from the lawsuit filed:
The only conclusive evidence gathered from the investigation was that Megan tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease that she contracted from non-consensual sex with Defendant Bunn.
That motherfricker Sweet T gave her an STD
The only conclusive evidence gathered from the investigation was that Megan tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease that she contracted from non-consensual sex with Defendant Bunn.
That motherfricker Sweet T gave her an STD
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:58 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:
hell you didn't even link the most important information in the thread which came in this morning.
This is and ongoing fluid situation. Im not doing a book review. This is breaking news.
quote:
while taking shots at her friends and sorority sisters taboot
Thats very telling to me that her sisters didnt come to bat for her. I was in a frat and if another brother need help you help him, no questions asked.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 2:59 pm to Hangit
None of that is covering for Bama.
Collusion, overt acts in furtherance of, predicate acts, threats, concerted action, refusals to deal, business interference, unilateral actions, parallel actions,
Show me any of the above involving the U of A.
Collusion, overt acts in furtherance of, predicate acts, threats, concerted action, refusals to deal, business interference, unilateral actions, parallel actions,
Show me any of the above involving the U of A.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:20 pm to 14&Counting
From the lawsuit:
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identify and address any inconsistencies between Megan’s account and
Defendant
Bunn’s account.
60.
Although Hastings was supposed to interrogate Defendant Bunn as a rape suspect, he conveyed the clear impression that the police were united with Defendant Bunn against Megan. For instance, when Defendant
Bunn’s lawyer told
Defendant
Hastings “I know there’s any number of ways this could go. We just want this to be over,”
Defendant Hastings responded
with: “just kind of waiting to see how far she’s gonna push this.”
61.
On July 2, 2015, Megan’s father sent an e
-mail to Defendant
Howard on Megan’s
behalf, notifying the Title IX office of the assault and requesting information, support and assistance for Megan under Title IX. 62.
However, Defendant Howard deliberately chose not to respond to Megan’s father and Megan’s father made an additional attempt to contact Defendant Howard on Megan’s behalf.
63.
Defendant Howard and/or any other employe
e on behalf of UA’s Title IX office
deliberately refused to give Megan and her parents a response. 64.
While Megan and her parents made resilient efforts to get in contact with Defendant Howard, Defendant Howard was simultaneously responding to an e-mail from Kip Hart at the
Tuscaloosa Sheriff’s Department regarding Megan’s assault on or about July 9, 2015 stating that
there are
some “issues” in the Rondini case. Following this communication, neither Hart nor
Defendant Howard informed any of the Rondinis of this communication
SO, The Title IX director refused to answer the plaintiffs emails but responded to the cops email and never informed the plaintiffs of the that communication between the two. WOW. Alabama get ready, its coming.
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identify and address any inconsistencies between Megan’s account and
Defendant
Bunn’s account.
60.
Although Hastings was supposed to interrogate Defendant Bunn as a rape suspect, he conveyed the clear impression that the police were united with Defendant Bunn against Megan. For instance, when Defendant
Bunn’s lawyer told
Defendant
Hastings “I know there’s any number of ways this could go. We just want this to be over,”
Defendant Hastings responded
with: “just kind of waiting to see how far she’s gonna push this.”
61.
On July 2, 2015, Megan’s father sent an e
-mail to Defendant
Howard on Megan’s
behalf, notifying the Title IX office of the assault and requesting information, support and assistance for Megan under Title IX. 62.
However, Defendant Howard deliberately chose not to respond to Megan’s father and Megan’s father made an additional attempt to contact Defendant Howard on Megan’s behalf.
63.
Defendant Howard and/or any other employe
e on behalf of UA’s Title IX office
deliberately refused to give Megan and her parents a response. 64.
While Megan and her parents made resilient efforts to get in contact with Defendant Howard, Defendant Howard was simultaneously responding to an e-mail from Kip Hart at the
Tuscaloosa Sheriff’s Department regarding Megan’s assault on or about July 9, 2015 stating that
there are
some “issues” in the Rondini case. Following this communication, neither Hart nor
Defendant Howard informed any of the Rondinis of this communication
SO, The Title IX director refused to answer the plaintiffs emails but responded to the cops email and never informed the plaintiffs of the that communication between the two. WOW. Alabama get ready, its coming.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:38 pm to HarryBalzack
quote:
But, reasonably people agree that the university should have been more proactive in helping her pursue the case.
The university would not be a party to a criminal complaint. That is an issue that most people, no matter how reasonable they are, that are outside of the legal world do not understand. There is only so much the university has a duty to do and beyond that only so much it, as an entity, can do in such a scenario.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:47 pm to Five0
The Office of Title IX Coordinator oversees the University’s compliance with Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. The Office works with University Administration, departments, students, faculty, staff, campus police, and other support services to ensure that University policies and programs foster a campus community free of illegal gender discrimination and sexual violence
This is directly from Alabama's title 9 office explaining their duties. Title 9 is a federal law enforceable to entities that receive federal funding.
Does UofA receive federal funding?
This is directly from Alabama's title 9 office explaining their duties. Title 9 is a federal law enforceable to entities that receive federal funding.
Does UofA receive federal funding?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 3:50 pm to Placebeaux
Just know all the downvotes in the world arent going to keep the feds out of bama's a-hole.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:13 pm to Placebeaux
quote:
Just know all the downvotes in the world arent going to keep the feds out of bama's a-hole.
Have another one.....
In all seriousness, based on the suit it appears it was more just relying on junior staffers instead of seasoned professionals and the alarm as to how seriously distressed this girl was didn't go off in the heads of those in charge. That said, they could have easily been misled by the Sheriff's Department who were telling them it was nothing more than next morning regrets and it wasn't a rape. You have the authorities telling them it was nothing????
That said, if anything good comes out of this, Bama will take hard look at there procedures and staffing for these situations and put in improvements...and if Bama has to stroke a big fat check to the Rondini family then I am fine with that too.....
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:16 pm to 14&Counting
quote:
In all seriousness, based on the suit it appears it was more just relying on junior staffers instead of seasoned professionals and the alarm as to how seriously distressed this girl was didn't go off in the heads of those in charge. That said, they could have easily been misled by the Sheriff's Department who were telling them it was nothing more than next morning regrets and it wasn't a rape. You have the authorities telling them it was nothing????
Title IX does say that they are supposed to do their own investigation, coordinating with law enforcement where possible to streamline. The allegations as written do paint the picture that the title IX office failed in that facet and potentially others - is that a result of them not taking it seriously enough, relying on junior staffers not fully capable, the allegations being written in a certain light or, as some believe, something more sinister which isn't fully understood as of now - time will tell all.
quote:
That said, if anything good comes out of this, Bama will take hard look at there procedures and staffing for these situations and put in improvements...and if Bama has to stroke a big fat check to the Rondini family then I am fine with that too.....
That will likely happen - if their procedures improve at least some good will come out of it. As noted in the early pages of this thread, its a big issue in today's world in virtually all cities - i'm sure improvement is warranted in Tuscaloosa and hopefully it comes about.
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:19 pm to Sneaky__Sally
By the way, in order to bring a bit of levity into this horrible situation, check out the Yelp reviews for ST Bunn Construction:
If you want to get drugged and raped, use this company.
If you enjoy giving money to the family of a unrepentant rapist l, this is the place to go. The family support the son who raped a young woman who wasn't believed by authorities because of the families influence and ended up taking her own life. This family is the scum of the earth and shows a little bit of the south that existed 50 years ago, today. They also big game hunt in Africa to top it off.
LINK
If you want to get drugged and raped, use this company.
If you enjoy giving money to the family of a unrepentant rapist l, this is the place to go. The family support the son who raped a young woman who wasn't believed by authorities because of the families influence and ended up taking her own life. This family is the scum of the earth and shows a little bit of the south that existed 50 years ago, today. They also big game hunt in Africa to top it off.
LINK
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:27 pm to HarryBalzack
The fact that a rape kit wasn't done is a joke. Her attorneys are going to eat this alive. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the city, school, etc try to settle out of court before it's all said and done. Imagine if that was your sister, daughter, niece, etc
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:32 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:
Title IX does say that they are supposed to do their own investigation, coordinating with law enforcement where possible to streamline. The allegations as written do paint the picture that the title IX office failed in that facet and potentially others - is that a result of them not taking it seriously enough, relying on junior staffers not fully capable, the allegations being written in a certain light or, as some believe, something more sinister which isn't fully understood as of now - time will tell all.
Right....but if they were mislead and stonewalled by the sheriff, then what are they supposed to do? The authorities completely sandbagged not only the victim but the University as well. The administration are not criminal investigators?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:32 pm to lsuson
quote:
Her attorneys are going to eat this alive.
They've done great so far.
A more accurate thread title would be "LSU's last and only hope"
This fool has bumped this back to Page 1 five times now.
these victims have nothing on Auburn. 
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:37 pm to 14&Counting
I agree, just saying that is the biggest question mark regarding the university's / it employees responsibility as of now.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 4:40 pm to 14&Counting
Why not answer the parents email? I know why...panic.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 5:51 pm to Placebeaux
I had other things to take care of and just finished reading the suit. I am not an attorney and would like some correcting as needed.
They are suing individuals, not any institution. Does this lead to a suit against any institutions once they get a judgement against their employees?
A rape kit was done. It was never sent to the lab. Does anybody know if it still exists? Even if the fluids are now degraded, the paperwork would be important.
Little T is one of the individuals being sued. What is the scope of what he will be forced to answer at deposition time?
Will the rest of the individuals be subject to full, invasive, disclosure? I am wondering if their actions may be criminal, allowing them to plead the 5th, partially, or in whole.
Was the last part asking for an injunction to force the sheriff to do his job from here forward?
They are suing individuals, not any institution. Does this lead to a suit against any institutions once they get a judgement against their employees?
A rape kit was done. It was never sent to the lab. Does anybody know if it still exists? Even if the fluids are now degraded, the paperwork would be important.
Little T is one of the individuals being sued. What is the scope of what he will be forced to answer at deposition time?
Will the rest of the individuals be subject to full, invasive, disclosure? I am wondering if their actions may be criminal, allowing them to plead the 5th, partially, or in whole.
Was the last part asking for an injunction to force the sheriff to do his job from here forward?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 5:54 pm to 14&Counting
quote:
Right....but if they were mislead and stonewalled by the sheriff, then what are they supposed to do?
Part of their job is to conduct their own independent investigation. This did not happen.
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:05 pm to Hangit
Sounds like the Abernathy's might have shared pillow talk. Isn't he the sheriff, and she the Corp Rel exec at UA?
Posted on 7/6/17 at 6:05 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:
That will likely happen - if their procedures improve at least some good will come out of it
Apparently their are issues across the country with many schools. They need victims advocates for the worst crimes. Somebody to walk victims through the process who is on their side.
That being said, approximately 10% of reported rapes in Tuscaloosa are followed through with in the legal system. The sheriff says many are girls thinking they will get help with their grades if they are deemed a victim. Any false filings should be punished. Any real ones should be prosecuted.
"Bubba didn't want to", or "the perp is wealthy" can no longer be deemed an acceptable excuse for not doing their jobs.
And last, if Megan's family is awarded fat cash, how many other victims of a crime, and the system, come forward? Will it give the downtrodden new courage?
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