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re: Could The University of Alabama be the next Baylor. UPDATE:Another victim has come forward

Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:56 am to
If you are really curious skim the filing and the following is a good summary of the allegations and story - it doesn't mention much about UA though.

LINK

I'm not sure if Title IX officers are supposed to be in contact with the police officers regarding the status of investigations - but it seems reasonable that they would be providing updates to the student and none of the articles I have seen have framed that contact in a negative light.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:56 am to
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Its what they didnt do

Which is what?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:57 am to
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Its what they didnt do


Which is what?


Bitch dont come in here and try to divide by zero.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 10:57 am to
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This cop is in direct contact with the university and he is also prejudging the case for the grand jury. Thats collusion.


That is not collusion with the University. That is the TPD officer remitting this information to the school. The officer may well have "prejudged" this situation but the school is being told this by the authorities. That is not collusion. This occurred off campus and is a criminal matter being handled by the TPD and the University is getting this information from them.

I know you are trolling but where do you see collusion? Collusion for what purpose?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:01 am to
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That is the TPD officer remitting this information to the school.


Why?

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This occurred off campus and is a criminal matter being handled by the TPD and the University is getting this information from them.


The university title IX coordinate was with Meagan that night at TPD.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:04 am to
AND TO PROVE MY POINT OF LEGAL LEVERAGE

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The Rondinis learned the criminal case was back on the table only after they hired an attorney for a potential civil suit. Once they heard Megan might face felony charges, they decided it was best for Megan to drop the civil case, withdraw early from school, and go home to Texas.


So when Meagan filed the civil suit they played their trump card.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:07 am to
TPD / Bunn said that from the beginning I think he first offered to "drop his charges if she dropped hers" in the first interview with TPD.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:09 am to
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When investigating an incident of alleged sexual violence for Title IX purposes, to the extent possible, a school should coordinate with any other ongoing school or criminal investigations of the incident and establish appropriate fact-finding roles for each investigator. A school should also consider whether information can be shared among the investigators so that complainants are not unnecessarily required to give multiple statements about a traumatic event. If the investigation includes forensic evidence, it may be helpful for a school to consult with local or campus law enforcement or a forensic expert to ensure that the evidence is correctly interpreted by school officials. F


LINK

pg. 25

- that regarding the title IX responsibilities - your comments made me wonder how everything was meant to be handled, but it seems that title IX officers are responsible for coordinating their efforts with ongoing investigations.
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:13 am to
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Bitch dont come in here and try to divide by zero.

Okay, that one made me laugh.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:15 am to
UPDATE: July 5th 2017

CBS NEWS GOOD MORNING AMERICA

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CBS News legal analyst Rikki Klieman said the sheriff and his deputy are immune to the lawsuit under state law, but university officials could be vulnerable. "Assuming that you could prove causation of their actions to the ultimate suicide many, many months later," Klieman said. The sheriff's office would not comment for this story. We also reached out to Bunn but didn't hear back. The Rondinis say no amount of money will bring their daughter back, but any money they win through the lawsuit will be given to groups that help rape victims.


I smell FEDS
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:19 am to
I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see an investigation into TPD and DA coming out of all of this.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:21 am to
quote:

- that regarding the title IX responsibilities - your comments made me wonder how everything was meant to be handled, but it seems that title IX officers are responsible for coordinating their efforts with ongoing investigations.


Can someone explain to me what Title IX has to do with this? I really don't know.....
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:23 am to
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Can someone explain to me what Title IX has to do with this? I really don't know.....


At least you admit it.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:25 am to
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"Assuming that you could prove causation of their actions to the ultimate suicide many, many months later,"

Good luck with that.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:25 am to
I will probably say this somewhat incorrectly, but Title IX is i guess a statute for all university's - in any case it requires the institutions to provide a safe environment regardless of gender - in this case, investigate any allegations, provide support etc.

The title IX officer is named in the reports as not responding quickly to her parents and some other items which i can't remember now but are outlined in the filing. It looked like the officer handled it poorly according to the way the filing is written but all will come to light eventually.

Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

quote:
Can someone explain to me what Title IX has to do with this? I really don't know.....


At least you admit it.


To be fair, you were calling for collusion because the officer had contact with police which, as shown in the link above, the Title IX officer is required to do.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41301 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:30 am to
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Good luck with that.


The criminal case is dead and the TPD and DA are shielded from liability. I think it's a huge stretch to say U of A is in the wrong here.

Sweet T on the other hand....that m.f'r should get sued.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:33 am to
quote:

I will probably say this somewhat incorrectly, but Title IX is i guess a statute for all university's - in any case it requires the institutions to provide a safe environment regardless of gender - in this case, investigate any allegations, provide support etc.


Thanks ....I am aware of what Title IX is but unclear as to how it ties into a criminal matter off campus involving a student and a non-student.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:37 am to
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Good luck with that


Not my job. The FEDS will root that out.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/5/17 at 11:50 am to
I think they are required to investigate regardless of where or who the other party, as well as provide support and assistance.
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