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re: Cops shoot at Kids in Van
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:47 pm to UpToPar
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:47 pm to UpToPar
lol, I'm pretty sure bullets are more fatal than motor vehicles.
I think there was a better chance of a bullet ricocheting off the road and hitting a passenger in that van than there was of that cowboy cop hitting a tire.
I think there was a better chance of a bullet ricocheting off the road and hitting a passenger in that van than there was of that cowboy cop hitting a tire.
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:47 pm to WhoDats10
Pew Pew Pew
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:48 pm to htownjeep
quote:Well what if the cop killed the driver and the van went off a cliff and killed all the kids.
Yet had she plowed into a family of innocents and killed them all
There are a lot of what if scenarios. Still doesn't justify the shooting.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:49 pm to Phat Phil
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:50 pm to clept
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I think there was a better chance of a bullet ricocheting off the road and hitting a passenger in that van than there was of that cowboy cop hitting a tire.
Well then you don't have a very firm grasp on ballistics.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:52 pm to clept
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Well what if the cop killed the driver and the van went off a cliff and killed all the kids.
The point is, the chances of a bullet hitting anyone in the minivan there is very minimal, much less actually killing them, which again, gets to my point that there is a much better chance she kills someone in another vehicle or herself and her kids while fleeing.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:54 pm to UpToPar
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Well then you don't have a very firm grasp on ballistics.
Yea got me! Sarcasm is a lost on some people.
The point was that cops chances of hitting the tire were low, and he could have just as easily killed a kid.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:54 pm to htownjeep
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Yet had she plowed into a family of innocents and killed them all people would be all up in arms about "why didn't the cops shoot out her tires when they had a chance?".
I have never seen a SOP that allowed officers to fire on a vehicle moving away from them that was not an immediate threat to hit someone else. Pehaps he felt the officer coming in from the left was in danger but I still don't think he should have fired.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 2:59 pm to UpToPar
Dumbass driver put her kids and others at risk over a speeding ticket. Refused to follow orders, took off twice, all fault is on her. The son was lucky he didn't get shot going after the officer like that. Luckily nobody was hurt because of her stupidity.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:00 pm to clept
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Sarcasm is a lost on some people.
If you were being sarcastic then I apologize, but this:
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and he could have just as easily killed a kid.
leads me to believe that you were not. The chances of a bullet ricocheting off the pavement, up through the undercarriage and floor of the fan and into the vitals of any body in the van is extremely low. If the bullet even made it through the undercarriage of the van it would not have close to enough energy to actual kill anyone inside. There is a lot of metal underneath a car.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:04 pm to UpToPar
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the chances of a bullet hitting anyone in the minivan there is very minimal, much less actually killing them,
How can you say that? How to you know the chances?
Luckily that cop was a terrible shot. Crazy things happen when bullets start flying.
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my point that there is a much better chance she kills someone in another vehicle or herself and her kids while fleeing.
Better chance of being killed in a car crash than from a bullet wound?
Sure, the raw numbers would confirm that because most people use vehicles regularly. However I'd be willing to bet that your chances of surviving a car crash are much greater than surviving a gun shot.
Anyway, it's a moot point, this was a bad shooting in most peoples opinion. Showed poor judgement, and lethal escalation of a situation that required smarts and finesse, not gun powder.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:13 pm to clept
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How can you say that? How to you know the chances?
I've shot at plenty car doors and windows before. Bullets don't exactly slice through them like butter, especially bullets that have first ricocheted loosing most of their energy.
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Luckily that cop was a terrible shot. Crazy things happen when bullets start flying.
Wouldn't you much rather him be a good shot? I'm confused by this statement. If he was a good shot and actually hit the tire then there is much less chance for a ricochet.
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Better chance of being killed in a car crash than from a bullet wound?
:sigh: you still don't get it. I'm not comparing a bullet wound to a car crash. I'm comparing the chances first of the bullet actually making ricocheting into the van hitting one of the passengers and then killing them with the chances of the woman getting into a car crash and killing someone involved.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 3:28 pm to htownjeep
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Yet had she plowed into a family of innocents and killed them all people would be all up in arms about "why didn't the cops shoot out her tires when they had a chance?".
What other powers would you give to cops to prevent hypothetical accidents? Please keep us safe Mr Policeman, even if it means disobeying you = instant execution.
Then again, maybe all cops really are great, enlightened souls who we can trust completely.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 6:29 pm to uway
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What other powers would you give to cops to prevent hypothetical accidents? Please keep us safe Mr Policeman, even if it means disobeying you = instant execution.
Why couldn't the bitch sign the ticket and go to court. The whore drove off then her turd son jumped out to throw hands.
If someone drives off or refuses to follow the law, what should the cops do? This is a serious question to all the cop haters.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:18 pm to UpToPar
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The chances of the cop missing the tire and hitting one of the kids in the van is much smaller than the chance that this bitch runs the van into another car with a family inside killing them.
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Police fire on suspect, miss and hit two bystanders.
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Cops fire 84 rounds at suspect, 70 miss the target.
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