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re: Concerning the Russian hackers

Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:20 am to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133451 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:20 am to
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in we may not be able to stop our hackers from shutting down their economy



How do you hack vodka, beets and potatoes?
Posted by ruff fish
Member since Feb 2021
525 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:50 pm to
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I work in IT security.

You people legitimately make me laugh my arse off sometimes
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Also a follow up:

If it's consumer related, intellectual property related, or financially related: it's either china, pakistan, or the sketchy areas of india.

If it's purely political, it's Iran and Russia. Occasionally china.

I also work in IT.
I read your media on the topic of hacking and I find it funny. You put your own troubles and competitive / political differences on the first external enemy that comes along. China, Russia, Iran ... but at least Santa Claus is to blame for everything, just not you. Then you start to fight with this fictitious reason, and not with real problems.
In Russia, they joke that Russian hackers could not do this, because in May they were all preparing for their final exams at school.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30034 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:17 pm to
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They got the pipeline and now the meat industry. Why not tell Putin if he can’t reel these people in we may not be able to stop our hackers from shutting down their economy and crippling their nuclear program?


Hacking and many types of asymmetrical warfare require plausible deniability on the actor's part. We didn't announce everything we were doing on the world stage during the cold war and we don't now.

If your neighbor shits on your porch but you can't 100% prove it you don't announce your plans on the neighborhood gossip app you just pump 1,000 gallons of sewage in his house and make it look like a freak sewage backup. He knows it you know it but to the rest of the world, you have plausible deniability.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30034 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:29 pm to
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I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the green lobby's biggest boogeymen have been targeted.


It makes little sense for zealots to use ransomware. The back half of a ransomware plan aka demand is the most likely place to get caught as evidenced by the Colonial hack. It would be much easier for zealots to have hacked Colonial and just exited the backdoor without a word. The damage would have been magnitudes higher both in disruption and cost. Zealots also don't tell you they aren't zealots.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8677 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 1:38 pm to
I'm in no way convinced that it's Russian hackers doing this. Who can really believe our government anymore on stuff like this? I remember 4 years of Russia, Russia, Russia with zero proof or evidence other than Buyden and son 's involvement with Ukraine and Burisma.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 1:55 pm
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