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re: B-52 Stratofortress, how is it still in service?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:58 pm to EA6B
Posted on 2/16/18 at 10:58 pm to EA6B
I am sorry I did not read all of this, but I read most and if it has not been mentioned, I’ll tell you this: When you want to scare the living shite out of everybody within 10 miles, drop a stick of 500 lb bombs out of a B-52. Everybody < 1/2 mile dead or deaf.
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:02 pm to Emteein
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:07 pm to MeridianDog
Depending on fuel load, prior to a sortie on the walk around that tip gear is on the ground. After the sortie you could walk under the tip gear.
I’ve been behind a -135 getting gas before in pretty good turbulence and its wings were flapping like a bird. I didn’t even look at the BUFFs wings because I didn’t want to see what they looked like.
I’ve been behind a -135 getting gas before in pretty good turbulence and its wings were flapping like a bird. I didn’t even look at the BUFFs wings because I didn’t want to see what they looked like.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:07 pm to EA6B
quote:I read the '100' in the earlier post as being 100 H-models.
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Think there were over 550 built, not 100
Total production was 744, 72 are kept flyable today, only half a dozen or so are left in mothball storage. 365 were destroyed for scrap in 1992 alone.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:48 pm to Emteein
Haven't read the whole thread, but I'm in a pretty good position to answer this so here goes:
1. Airframe structure is strong and can safely sustain flight through 2050 without any structural upgrades needed.
2. While the airframe is old, the B-52 mission capable rate is still higher than the B-1 or B-2.
3. The B-52 also has a better aircraft available rate than either the B-1 or B-2.
4. When you balance cost, capability, and operational availability factors, the B-52 far surpasses the B-1 and B-2.
All of this leads to the AF position of gaining the B-21 and keeping the B-52 as the combination that provides the bomber force going forward.
1. Airframe structure is strong and can safely sustain flight through 2050 without any structural upgrades needed.
2. While the airframe is old, the B-52 mission capable rate is still higher than the B-1 or B-2.
3. The B-52 also has a better aircraft available rate than either the B-1 or B-2.
4. When you balance cost, capability, and operational availability factors, the B-52 far surpasses the B-1 and B-2.
All of this leads to the AF position of gaining the B-21 and keeping the B-52 as the combination that provides the bomber force going forward.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:58 pm to tokenBoiler
Today we have 75 flyable B-52H models. We are supposed to have 76, but one was destroyed in an accident in Guam last year. The AF is working on regenerating one from the "Boneyard" next year, but that is TBD.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:03 am to FlyingTiger06
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We are supposed to have 76, but one was destroyed in an accident in Guam last year.
See my comment on the brakes...
They suck balls
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:06 am to IceTiger
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See my comment on the brakes...
They suck balls
We know and are trying to improve that too.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:08 am to TigerstuckinMS
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So, while the B-52 is slower, carries less payload, and costs more per hour to operate, the "cost per bomb-day" (cost for the fleet to drop one bomb per day) is comparable between the two since about half of the B-1 fleet is stuck on the ground for maintenance instead of dropping bombs at any given time compared to 25% or so for the 52.
The B-52 Cost Per Flying Hour (CPFH) is less than both the B-1 and B-2.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 12:35 am to FlyingTiger06
I had no idea we had so few operational BUFFs today. Pretty eye opening. I thought we had 150 to 200. Shows you what a geezer I’ve become. I’ll reiterate however that I seem to have been the only one on this board who’s seen the end result on the ground. It is unbelievable.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:06 am to beachdude
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I’ll reiterate however that I seem to have been the only one on this board who’s seen the end result on the ground. It is unbelievable.
You were in 'nam when bombing from the Arclight?
Lol
Posted on 2/17/18 at 1:10 am to FlyingTiger06
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The AF is working on regenerating one from the "Boneyard" next year, but that is TBD.
AMARG is picked dry for a bunch of parts...
Are there even any ejection seats left?
It'd be cool to recover one, but I just don't see it.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:30 am to IceTiger
Just googled, there were 742 built, last built in 1963, however , bed modified many time. One other thing there were over 2000 B47s built, recall reading in the Cuba crisis , 1k B47 were on alert & 500 B52s were on alert
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:07 am to Jim Rockford
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Otherwise it's a big fat target.
ever hear the term alone, unarmed, and unafraid? that's the buff, it's got enough badass electrons to shut down the entire east coastPosted on 2/17/18 at 8:11 am to Emteein
It’s a bad MF that’s why
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:35 am to TigerintheNO
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Greatest Generation vs Millennials
And the majority of pilots of the B-52 are the older aged millennials in the 30-36 year age range.
God damnit I’m sorry to derail but you realize that both Iraq and Afghanistan have been fought on the backs of millennials right? A lot of the dumb shite you old bastards pin on millennials is actually the generation below them (high school and college kids now).
I’m triggered like a good millennial
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 8:43 am
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:42 am to FlyingTiger06
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The B-52 Cost Per Flying Hour (CPFH) is less than both the B-1 and B-2.
I think my "cost per bomb-day" sounds so much more fun, though. I think we were getting at the same thing. I thought the B-52 cost more per hour when it was in the air, but once you factor in the lower maintenance and spread all the costs across only the hours the plane actually is in the air, it's cheaper.
Or was I off and it actually costs less just to operate the B-52 for an hour than the B-1? The B-2 is a no brainer. That sumbitch is expensive to fly.
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 8:46 am
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:54 am to Emteein
It’s becuase it was built by Americans and built to last.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 8:55 am to TheGasMan
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I’m triggered like a good millennial
get off of my lawn!!!
Posted on 2/17/18 at 9:43 am to Boston911
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While the airframe may be 1960s, engines, systems, avionics have been upgraded continuously. Everything besides the frame is modern
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