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re: Arkansas State Police Pit Maneuver at 109 mph goes wrong

Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:10 am to
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What if the police pursued a suspect through a school zone at high speeds.., causing vehicle to hit back of school bus .., killing multiple children ... than we find out it’s because said suspect ran a red light...


It’s a hypothetical situation that cops must consider.
They do not know what is coming ahead, so they can not plan for such situations.

They do know, however, that a person committed a traffic violation and when the cop tried to stop the person to give a ticket, the person ran. The idea that the person ran simply because they wanted to avoid a traffic violation is nonsensical. The person has already demonstrated they have no care for others life when they committed traffic violation, and now they are endangering countless others’ lives by trying to avoid a traffic violation? Lol
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:13 am
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4445 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:12 am to
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The person has already demonstrated they have no care for others life when they committed traffic violation,


Are you a cop???... this the dumbest shite ever...
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:13 am to
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Are you a cop???... this the dumbest shite ever...


So if a person runs a red light, that is not endangering others’ lives?
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:15 am
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4445 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:16 am to
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So if a person runs a red light, that is not endangering others lives?


Yeah to a extent... but does that justify some idiot cop to escalate the situation to a high speed chase to endanger even more lives???
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:18 am to
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Yeah to a extent


That’s a yes or no question. It either does endanger others lives, or it doesn’t.

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diot cop to escalate the situation to a high speed chase to endanger even more lives???


So the cop was going that fast because he wanted to go that fast, or was it because the perpetrator was going that fast?
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9498 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:20 am to
Not necessarily to you bagman as I don’t know which “side” of the argument you are on, but to those crying about how it was carried out.:

quote:

quote:
You don't have helicopters in the air instantly.


Then back off, give a description of vehicle, have dispatch call all units ahead, etc. Nothing good happens from this shite. Today, these guys will be caught. No need to chase like that, only makes the prep drive crazier.




Right. Allow him to possibly/probably kill another person or a family who AREN’T breaking any laws, all because we don’t want anything bad to happen to him because we could possibly look like bad guys.

frick that. Do what is right. If he lives, great. Throw his arse in prison.

If not, then you just saved the taxpayers lots of money.

At least nobody innocent died in those two possible outcomes. All these fricking whinebags acting like every officer and department has full-on military resources, bottomless budgets, and no good intentions to go along with all that can DIAF.

Move to Seattle or some other liberal hellhole if you hate the police. Good luck not having your shite stolen or being attacked there, you know, since they are defunded and not there to keep your dumb arse safe anymore.

fricking pricks.

This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
4445 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:22 am to
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So the cop was going that fast because he wanted to go that fast, or was it because the perpetrator was going that fast?


What’s the point you trying to make??? I don’t care what the suspect did... is it worth endangering other lives pursuing him through a crowed area ??? Yes or no
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9498 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:24 am to
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A classic example of cops causing more problems than the criminals themselves


Pulled the trigger too soon on the above post, but will leave it to acknowledge my mistake. Should have just quoted this mental midget.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:25 am to
Whoever the supervisor that okayed this maneuver at this speed should be fired. Speeds that high for those offenses shouldn’t have been a pursuit at all. If it’s a murder suspect or sometime of immediate threat to the public that’s one thing but for traffic offenses this is just pointless ETA you never Pitt at those speeds.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:26 am to
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I don’t care what the suspect did.


Ok wow, now that is revealing.

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is it worth endangering other lives pursuing him through a crowed area ??? Yes or no


The perpetrator has already endangered others lives by committing a traffic violation, and is now endangering others lives by running at high speeds. Why wouldn’t the perpetrator just pull over and not endanger others lives?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15113 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:27 am to
Obviously I don’t feel bad for the dead shithead. But that cop was out of fricking line. A 100mph pit on an undivided road with traffic coming head on? Wtf
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:30 am to
So if the cop allow the pursuit to continue, and the perpetrator runs yet another red light and kills a family of four. Then what?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15113 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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So if the cop allow the pursuit to continue, and the perpetrator runs yet another red light and kills a family of four. Then what?


You have to play the probability game. What’s more likely? That happening or him overcorrecting on the pit and going left into oncoming traffic and hitting a family of 4 head on and a combined impact speed of 160+ mph.

This is part of the training.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:36 am to
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You have to play the probability game. What’s more likely?


Of course yes, this is something that has to be considered. But the cops have to consider that this person has demonstrated no care for the lives of others. To allow the pursuit to go on is to allow the inevitable.
Posted by Travis Scott
McDonald’s
Member since Jan 2021
689 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:38 am to
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DByrd2


*Claims to be worried about the well-being of others*

*Tells those that don’t agree with his views to DIAF*

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66803 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:43 am to
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Whoever the supervisor that okayed this maneuver at this speed should be fired. Speeds that high for those offenses shouldn’t have been a pursuit at all. If it’s a murder suspect or sometime of immediate threat to the public that’s one thing but for traffic offenses this is just pointless ETA you never Pitt at those speeds.

This. You would be hard pressed to find another department in the country that would authorize a PIT at those speeds. If they had the vehicle description and the tag number, they could have safely followed and looked for an opportunity to use spike strips. Sometimes they just have to cut their losses and hope they catch the guy another day. It happens all the time.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67944 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:46 am to
What kind of moron attempts a pit maneuver at 109 mph?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15113 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:50 am to
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Of course yes, this is something that has to be considered. But the cops have to consider that this person has demonstrated no care for the lives of others. To allow the pursuit to go on is to allow the inevitable.


Do you seriously think that a 100mph pit with oncoming traffic was the best idea?
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:51 am to
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What kind of moron attempts a pit maneuver at 109 mph?


What kind of a moron allows a pursuit to continue in which the perpetrator has demonstrated that they have no care for the lives/well being of others?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66803 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:51 am to
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What kind of moron attempts a pit maneuver at 109 mph?


Either a rogue moron or a moron who lied to superiors about the speed of the chase.
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