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re: Arkansas State Police Pit Maneuver at 109 mph goes wrong
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:36 am to Lucky_Stryke
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:36 am to Lucky_Stryke
So true. 
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Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:46 am to Travis Scott
So you know why the cop was there, but he was the one who made all of this happen?
He should have ignored it right. Dumbass
He should have ignored it right. Dumbass
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:47 am to Ace Midnight
What is in the drivers mind? There are a dozen police cars behind you, does he think he is getting away? What is the end game here?
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:47 am to jbgleason
OJ went slow and didn't die
Posted on 1/23/21 at 8:55 am to tigerinthebueche
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You’re fricking retarded. Move to California.
Go find a cop to suck off
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:00 am to Concernednewguy7
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So you know why the cop was there, but he was the one who made all of this happen? He should have ignored it right. Dumbass
The police escalated the situation by making the choice to pursue and pull a pit maneuver at 109 mph
The guy didn’t just kill someone, he committed a traffic violation
Do traffic violations warrant chasing someone down at all costs?
I don’t believe so
Dumbass
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:03 am to Travis Scott
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The police escalated the situation by making the choice to pursue and pull a pit maneuver at 109 mph
The guy didn’t just kill someone, he committed a traffic violation
Do traffic violations warrant chasing someone down at all costs?
I don’t believe so
Dumbass
Hey now, the guy probably had half an ounce of weed or a bench warrant on an FTA from District Court from that fight he had with his old lady about six months back.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:11 am to Travis Scott
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The police escalated the situation by making the choice to pursue and pull a pit maneuver at 109 mph
So they should have just let him get away?
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The guy didn’t just kill someone, he committed a traffic violation
Do traffic violations warrant chasing someone down at all costs?
So, in your mind, he was running simply because he committed a traffic violation? You do not think there could have been another reason? Lol
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Dumbass
Lol, you’re the one who believes that this guy running was only running because of a traffic violation.
I say again; dumbass
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:16 am to Concernednewguy7
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So, in your mind, he was running simply because he committed a traffic violation? You do not think there could have been another reason? Lol quote: Dumbass Lol, you’re the one who believes that this guy running was only running because of a traffic violation. I say again;
Well yeah... all the charges stated are traffic violations
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:27 am to Concernednewguy7
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So they should have just let him get away?
No, they should have called off pursuit and caught up with him later
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So, in your mind, he was running simply because he committed a traffic violation? You do not think there could have been another reason? Lol
LINK
According to this article, the man was mentally disabled
(Not that I expect them to know this, but since they’ve already ran the plate, it’s time to make a judgement call)
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Lol, you’re the one who believes that this guy running was only running because of a traffic violation. I say again; dumbass
I want our law enforcement to make better on-the-spot decisions and approach situations like these more responsibly
Clearly that’s too difficult for you to understand
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:45 am to lepdagod
Ok, so you’re telling me that this driver ran away from cops because of a traffic violation?
Think about this for a second.
And if you were the cop, you would see the person running and assume what? That he just didn’t want a ticket and so you’d call the chase off? You would not assume the driver had something to hide?
Think about this for a second.
And if you were the cop, you would see the person running and assume what? That he just didn’t want a ticket and so you’d call the chase off? You would not assume the driver had something to hide?
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:52 am to James11111
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That could be a lack of training or a lack of common sense. Either way, it's a failure of the department.
Someone should have called him off at those speeds, if he was some kind of rouge idiot.
He literally said, I'm going over 100 are you sure you want me to continue the pit. "Roger". Nothing about that was going rogue. FFS. Watch the damn video before making stupid comments.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:53 am to Concernednewguy7
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That he just didn’t want a ticket and so you’d call the chase off? You would not assume the driver had something to hide?
Damn what he assumes... it doesn’t benefit the public for some high school educated cop to commence a high speed chase off his assumption...
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:54 am to Travis Scott
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No, they should have called off pursuit and caught up with him later
Ok, so the cops obviously did not know why he was running. But to suggest they should have just called off the pursuit is dumb. Who knows if he has a child in the car or if he just committed a murder and has the evidence on him. Not to mention that it could be a stolen vehicle. In which case, how could the cops have possibly caught up with him later?
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According to this article, the man was mentally disabled
And the cops knew that?
Does the fact that this person was mentally disabled excuse the fact that he was endangering others life when driving at such speeds? What about the fact that when he committed a traffic violation, that could have easily lead to some random person being hurt or killed because of their negligence/disability?
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I want our law enforcement to make better on-the-spot decisions and approach situations like these more responsibly Clearly that’s too difficult for you to understand
You have become invested in this story on an emotional level. You have decided to remove all logic and to be purposefully ignorant of obvious possibilities for the sake of making your argument seem valid.
I agree that cops have some serious issues. About a year ago some cops committed a no knock raid at a place here in Houston. It resulted in two deaths and all of the cops were seriously injured. The two people who were killed in the no knock raid were killed because of false information that was purposefully lied about for the sake of getting the raid. We have not heard shite about this. And this is a big deal. A no knock raid in which the cops barge in and shoot your dog, then you (thinking you have a home intruder) shoot at the people who just shot your dog. Which then results in these people being killed for absolutely no reason.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:57 am to lepdagod
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I want our law enforcement to make better on-the-spot decisions and approach situations like these more responsibly Clearly that’s too difficult for you to understand
So in this event, the person ended up being a mentally disabled person.
But let’s say this situation happens again. Because of public backlash and because of perspectives like yours, the cops decide to call off the chase. A few days later a family is found murdered and their family car is stolen. The perpetrator could have been dealt with, but because the cops needed to let him get away, he indeed did get away. Now we have a murderer on the loose and no way of catching them in the foreseeable future until some evidence is hopefully found.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:57 am to saintsfan1977
quote:what if the vehicle doesn’t come back to the suspect?
This is stupid. It's simple. Cop gets behind him, grabs plate number and backs off. Call in the chopper to follow him. Apprehend him alive when he gets out the vehicle. High speed chases are for morons. It never ends up wel
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:58 am to Travis Scott
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Travis Scott
I am a Police Officer. Been one for almost 13 years.
I honestly do not know all of the cold hard facts about prior events that lead to the chase. You stated just catch up with him later. That shows some lack of knowledge on how things work. Tag numbers only display the registered owner info not who is driving the vehicle. I can tell you at least half the time, the owner is not the driver. Also people are not really good at keeping their information up to date. So even if it was the registered owner, the address may be completely wrong as well as the address on their license. No one verifies that information.
My agency is not necessarily getting away from pursuits, but the parameters are much more stringent than they used to be and I feel that as Ive been in multiple pursuits and years of experience, that its a good thing. However that said there are some cons. 1 being that if you dont chase based purely on a traffic offense there are some instances that it prevents other crimes. Example is that there was a pursuit several years ago (not in my municipality) that started purely as a traffic offense. They guy wrecked out in a single MVA. He sustained minor injuries. Turns out he had several weapons and was driving to his soon to be ex wifes house to try to kill her. Im absolutely sure thats minority situation but it happened. There isnt a clear but answer but if people know that the chase will be called off alot of people wont stop.
Also the offender may not know that the pursuit has been called all the time and still continues driving extremely reckless. I think you just have to take in the totality of everything for each instance. Whats the original offense? Area of the pursuit as far as traffic is concerned? Speeds and such etc. Thats how we operate now. No one on this board was there for this pursuit. The news has been known to not report everything clearly and correctly.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:59 am to justice
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Cop gets behind him, grabs plate number and backs off.
So if the car is recently stolen, and the car hasn’t been reported as being stolen yet, then what? You going to go to the home of the person who had their car stolen and arrest them because their car was involved?
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:04 am to Concernednewguy7
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Because of public backlash and because of perspectives like yours, the cops decide to call off the chase. A few days later a family is found murdered and their family car is stolen. The perpetrator could have been dealt with, but because the cops needed to let him get away, he indeed did get away. Now we have a murderer on the loose and no way of catching them in the foreseeable future until some evidence is hopefully found.
What if the police pursued a suspect through a school zone at high speeds.., causing vehicle to hit back of school bus .., killing multiple children ... than we find out it’s because said suspect ran a red light...
See how that works... we can deal in hypotheticals all day...
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:05 am to Concernednewguy7
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So if the car is recently stolen, and the car hasn’t been reported as being stolen yet, then what? You going to go to the home of the person who had their car stolen and arrest them because their car was involved?
That is another good example. It takes little while for it to show up in NCIC as a stolen vehicle after it is entered. Not to mention being reported.
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